Can anyone name a 9mm or 380 pistol that is hammer fired with NO manual safety, that is smaller/slimmer than a Sig 239/232 but larger than a Ruger LCP? There are plenty of small SA cocked and locked pistols, but very few small, slim, DA/SA or DAO hammer fired with no external safety.
Where are the hammer fired subcompact pistols?
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Sig P290 too
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The Sig 250 has a wider slide than the 239.
Deus Machina
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Pretty sure CZ offers a Rami with just a decocker.
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If you drop to a .380 the Walther PPK comes to mind. If you can find an original Ruger LC9 that might fit your criteria but it has a manual and completely unnecessary safety. It's too bad Ruger never offered that gun without the manual safety, like they are doing with the LC9s Pro. Maybe a SCCY? Makorov?
I was looking for the same thing and ended up settling on the Sig 938. I'm not a fan of cocked and locked but as you are finding out there aren't many options fitting your description. I sure wish the Sig 938 was available in a DA/SA configuration or even in DAO.
Good luck!
I was looking for the same thing and ended up settling on the Sig 938. I'm not a fan of cocked and locked but as you are finding out there aren't many options fitting your description. I sure wish the Sig 938 was available in a DA/SA configuration or even in DAO.
Good luck!
You mentioned the old LC9, PPK, and Makorov all have manual safeties and I refuse to carry with a manual safety. The SCCY CPX2 and CPX3 are internal hammer fired, but also seem to be in the same price/quality category as Keltec. Looks like there is a huge manufacturer gap in 9mm/380 DAO subcompacts.
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Considering you want hammer fired and smaller than a Sig 239/232 that leaves you with..............what? There isn't a firearm made that doesn't represent some form of compromise. Same goes for just about everything else, house, car, truck, boat, wife, all require some form of compromise so like I said, good luck!
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Sig P226. Basically a Makarov-like gun with a DA/SA trigger with decocker. No safety. If you want smaller, the LCP comes to mind. It's double action only with no safety whatsoever.
Plan2Live, I'm looking for something about the size of a Kahr PM9 but with a hammer, and so far the Sig 290RS is about the only thing mentioned that's close. The SCCY and Keltec would fit but I'd like something a bit higher quality.
Grampajack, a SIG P226? That's huge compared to all the other pistols we are discussing. I'd rather carry my P225, but even that is the same size as our Glock 19. Already have an LCP and want something a bit more shootable.
Grampajack, a SIG P226? That's huge compared to all the other pistols we are discussing. I'd rather carry my P225, but even that is the same size as our Glock 19. Already have an LCP and want something a bit more shootable.
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Smith and Wesson CS9 and CS45 come to mind although sadly out of production they can still be had in the used market.
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A true double action only subcompact with no manual safety that actually fits in a pocket?
Remington RM380.
Did I mention it was hammer fired?
Remington RM380.
Did I mention it was hammer fired?
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Smith & Wesson makes an M&P Bodyguard .380 with no safety. DAO, 6+1. It's just a hair larger and heavier than an LCP I think, with slightly better/replaceable sights.
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Not related to the R51. It's basically the Rohrbaugh R380/R9 with a few tweaks like a different mag release. Remington bought Rohrbaugh not too long ago and got the design in the process.
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Beretta Pico. May be a bit smaller but it is DAO .380acp, has a hammer and no safety. A very nice little 6+1 pistol.
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Just to clarify, you're completely opposed to carrying a pistol that has a manual safety, but does not require it be used? Pretty much any hammer-fired pistol with a trigger capable of being fired in a double-action mode is just as safe to carry with the hammer at rest and the safety off as is a pistol with such a trigger and no safety at all. I'm only asking because there are a LOT of excellent choices with that feature. I myself frequently carry in this manner, and did when I was "on the job" as well. All of my handguns that have both a manual safety and a DA-capable trigger are carried and/or stowed with a round chambered, the hammer at rest, and the safety off.
Would you be okay with a decocker, or do you prefer to "thumb-lower" your cocked hammer?
If I found an excellent example of what you're looking for, though, preferably with an all-steel construction, I'd probably go for it. I prefer no manual safety, too, but am not bothered by one that happens to be there. I just don't use it.
Would you be okay with a decocker, or do you prefer to "thumb-lower" your cocked hammer?
If I found an excellent example of what you're looking for, though, preferably with an all-steel construction, I'd probably go for it. I prefer no manual safety, too, but am not bothered by one that happens to be there. I just don't use it.
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Sorry, total brain fart. I meant the P230. Sorry again, I don't know what I was thinking.
I think you'd like one. They're a bit more substantial than most other compact .380s and a real pleasure to shoot. And right up your alley with the DA/SA trigger and decocker.
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That's small, the HK P2000SK almost covers what you ask.
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Might look at the Beretta px4 subcompact, I believe you can convert them to decocker only, G configuration. Might be a little too wide for your liking though.
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