Where did all the percussion caps go?

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Winchester #11 caps were hanging on the rack at Wal-Mart yesterday, right next to the Pyrodex and other muzzleloading supplies.
 
You guys passing along tips about Wal-Mart crack me up. The Wally-Worlds down here sell Gerber knives and ammunition.... and the ammo (popular sizes) is usually gone after 10:30AM on Wednesdays - they put it out at 10. Now, if somebody needs factory loads for a Moisin-Nagant; there are 7-8 boxes of 7.62x54R under about 1/2" of dust in the locked-up case.
WallMart in Englewood Fl, get there before 7 AM on Tuesdays and get in line. Limit 3 boxes per.
 
I ordered 1000 #11 Rem rifle caps from them and I got a shipping notice that they'll be here Wed. Works out to $6.50 per tin. I'll let you know if they are BP caps.
 
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WallMart in Englewood Fl, get there before 7 AM on Tuesdays and get in line. Limit 3 boxes per.

Sounds good.... if I leave here around noon tomorrow; I just might get there in time!
Wal-Mart's in SW Arizona are sorta-kinda "Gun Free Zones". Don't get me wrong, I've seen guys carrying open around all three stores in our County, and the staff doesn't bat an eye. It's just that for the last 8-10 years or so, if you wanted to BUY a gun, it had better be an air-soft gun, 'cause they have nothing that will make a REAL "bang" and send a potentially lethal hunk of metal downrange. "Powder" is in the Cosmetics Department, and if you ask for "Caps" and the sporting goods guy is not busy, he'll happily take you over to Automotive and show you the Skulls and blinkie-light ''air-pressure indicating" caps to fit all manner of valve stems mounted on all manner of wheels.

But firearms - especially BP stuff? "Ahhhh, that's a negatory, Night Rider"

I still kick myself in the posterior for not hitting up the ATM when the final clearance price on their very last Yellowboy .22 levergun had dropped to $149 from its original $229 price-tag.
 
I forgot to mention I ordered them from 3rd Gen shooting Supply. I ordered them on Aug 27th and they said it may take several weeks becuase of the Haz-mat fee.
 
I'll be interested to hear exactly what you receive. It sure looks like they should be normal Remington #11 percussion caps but it would be nice to get confirmation since they don't have a photo on the site and their inventory shows vast quantities of the things when they're sold out elsewhere...
 
I got the caps today and the tins had a band on them, not like the ones at the store. I opened one tin up and looked at the inside of the cap and it did'nt look like there was any green powder in them! I thought OK, I better ckeck them out out. I loaded 3 in my 44 Rem with no powder, just the caps and they went bang like the 40% new hotter ones. Their website site says like they have 6000+ in stock. It cost me $66 for 1000 caps. Sorry, long post on caps. OK I guess I'm just confirming Wap41's deal.
 
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Huh. Those sound like the old Remington caps (before the 40% hotter). Tin white and green, green tape wrapped around it, more of a golden color inside the caps instead of green. A lot of people didn't like them, I think partially because they were a bit large and don't necessarily fit everything. They switched to the 40% hotter caps at least 10 years ago so I guess they're clearing out old stock.

Thanks for the update!
 
I ordered 1000 #11 Rem rifle caps from them and I got a shipping notice that they'll be here Wed. Works out to $6.50 per tin. I'll let you know if they are BP caps.
The $2.99 caps are now labeled as rifle caps on the web page now. I ordered 2000, got them. #11 (F.C.). Thankfully 1860 and ROA don't know the difference. They are just a tad taller than the Remington's and CCI I had on hand. Archived thread on THR regarding the
F.C. designation indicated that meant Foil Covered. Old product they are pushing ??????
 
Judging from the descriptions it's something they stopped making around 2000. I have some arriving today and will confirm. At least they were cheap but it sure would be nice to have had something about this on the website. I know I'll never be ordering from third generation again.

Oh, and I think they labeled them rifle caps because they tend to fall off of cap and ball revolvers since they're a bit big. We'll see.
 
When I ordered they had the Haz mat fee on that page listed as 20 bucks. Charged me 27.50. called them on it but got no where. Won't deal with them again but I guess the bottom line I now have 2000 (?), they work on the ROA and my 1860, so they should be ok on the Walker. That is most of my shooting.

I think this is a side business of a hardware store.
 
OK, so mine arrived (2K of them) as well as some other hazmat items I ordered at the same time.

So the bad news is that they're definitely old caps. I'm not sure how old but forum threads from 2003 call these the old caps. So... 10-15 years old?

It's not a bad deal since I probably would have just bought the other items for the hazmat and been happy, so in my head they're $2.99/100. But at the same time they're a) less hot than the current model and b) I tried them on a TRESO nipple and the current Remingtons you have to push on and they're quite snug. These just slip on but they're long enough that they don't seem inclined to fall off or anything like that. But I don't know that they'll stay on as well under recoil.

I'm not 100% sure what I'll do with these because on a revolver they may or may not be more inclined to slip off than what I'm using now, and on a rifle the ignition path is longer and I really appreciate the hotter caps when I'm using 777 powder. I'll just have to try them and see. It may turn out that they'll stay on on some guns and not others.

I'm hoping to shoot my 1858 tomorrow. If so I'll post again with some idea of how they stay on. I'll be shooting some conicals and this particular gun's most accurate with a fairly stout load with conicals so it will be a good test.
 
Just to follow up on that, with my 1858 and 35gr 3F 777 and a conical bullet the caps don't stay put. Interestingly enough they're so long they don't seem to come totally off easily but after the first shot the next one over would come off about half way and then when I would cock the revolver it would mash into the mechanism. No fun.

So yeah, I'll find uses for these but it's not a general purpose works on everything cap like a modern Remington would be.
 
I ordered 2K of the CCI Mag #11s from these guys & received them today. The packaging does look like they might be old stock, but they are as advertised. Looking at a few cups the primer doesn't appear to be super consistent, but this is my first foray into #11s so what do I know. We'll see how they shoot. :)

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Huh. I ordered some of those as well but was so distracted by the Remingtons I never really looked at them. They look like yours and the ones I've bought elsewhere have a more modern design on the tins. Should have brought some with me today to see how they shot.

Update: I checked a couple of online retailers and they seem to have the same art as pictured above and as I received. So maybe that's actually a new design and it's just kind of retro. Weird.
 
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GJgo,

Those are the new tins. Ones in box are new and I show some of the older ones. ( 2 years old)

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I had about 15 minutes to kill this morning, and checked my local Wal-Mart. They had Winchester #11 Magnum caps for something a little on the high side of $7 per tin. They had 5 tins on the rack, and I bought three of 'em (cause that's all the money I had with me). I may go back and get the other two, if they're still there.
 
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