Where did the 7.62x25 Surplus Ammo Go?

[xr1200]

Dream all you want the surplus ammo is gone. As for selling the ammo and guns off, most ppl that will buy them are either new buyers, uninformed or die hards that will continue with these guns no matter what.

Better off to sell them, now then to be sitting on a dog that won't sell.

Other issue is parts nothing available for the M57 yugos or any of the other models.

 

[AethelstanAegen]

Anyone thinking about buying a Yugo M57 Tokarev can ignore xr1200...I think he's just hoping to buy all ours cheap. I bought one about a month ago and love it. Commercial ammo is still cheaper than many other calibers I own, so even with out surplus available, I'll be shooting mine regularly with the added plus of not having to worry about corrosive ammo. I think the bang for your buck on an M57 is well worth it.

 

[xr1200]

I don't know where you went to school, but $7.95 for 50 rounds of 9mm is a lot cheaper than $15.95 a 50 qty. box the cheapest commercial 7.62 x 25 currently out there !

 

[fallout mike]

Xr, so what you are saying is that we should get rid of most of our pistols bc of the high price of ammo? .44acp, .45 colt, .44 mag, .357 mag, etc, so on and so on because 9mm is cheaper. Oh, I get it now. Well, maybe not but ok.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

OK how many centerfire fire pistols can be shot for 15.95 per 50 commercial rounds? Personally the cheap military surplus was just one reason I acquired a CZ52 (CZ vz 52 for purists).

I shoot a CZ52 with military surplus to participate in military matches and with S&B, FNM or PPU commercial rounds to generate empty reloadable brass to reload for a C96 Mauser. If necessary I will start reloading for the CZ52. Maybe the days of 7.62x25 spam cans and $8 for 70 round boxes are drawing to a close, but there is enough of a user base to keep commercial manufacture supportable.

ADDED: there is no guarantee that the cheap 9mm currently available is not just a fluke. In the past certain ammos have been cheap because of massive military contract overruns in production or cancellations of major contracts. Nothing is guaranteed in this world but uncertainty.

 

[mgmorden]

Try and justify your purchases then and now.

Current situation no more cheap surplus ammo period.

Pretty easy for me to justify it. I own both a CZ-52 AND a Tokarev and I've not shot surplus ammo in either. If it pops up again I *might* buy some, but truth be told, the surplus stuff is corrosive, and I'm a bit lazy on cleaning my handguns. Guess what: despite not having the cheap stuff available I've still been shooting and enjoying both guns.

What people have been telling you this whole thread, and what you seem California-bent on refusing to believe, is that for a lot of people dirty cheap surplus ammo wasn't a major factor - or even a factor at all - in them deciding to buy these guns. Despite the entire catalog of centerfire ammo being more expensive then 9mm Luger people shoot all sorts of different stuff. It's not all about shooting what's cheap.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Um, the new ammo is less than many other calibers, so I don't think it's all that much more expensive, just not nearly as cheap to shoot one the surplus dries up.
Hell it's on par with .40, alot cheaper than .357 Sig.

 

[armarsh]

I've got seven pistols chambered in 7.62x25. I've never fired a single corrosive cartridge in one, and I never will.

XR1200 would like to believe that with surplus drying up prices will go even lower than $200 for a M57. I doubt it, but I hope they do, cuz I'll buy more.

 

[jmace57]

No, what XR1200 wants is to be is a troll.

 

[xr1200]

To what others may thing I'm not being a troll, I have experience with these guns and I know what I am talking about. I predicted the exact situation would happen with the ammo 3 months ago in earlier posts.

So think what you want, you all know the current situation with the ammo and the even the left over surplus ammo is going for quite a lot $196 a case heres the link - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=230897500

So read all the posts, do a little research and make an educated decision for yourself, as a policy its good to never take anyones word as the truth especially on the internet , find it out for yourself.

 

[Fastcast]

I know what I am talking about. I predicted the exact situation would happen with the ammo 3 months ago in earlier posts.

Genius.....You predicted surplus ammo would dry up.

LOL

 

[xr1200]

As opposed to the ones that banked on it and thought it would be around forever. Well I guess in your own words then I'm a genius.

No use in casting stones or argueing mute points, there is already enough information out there for ppl to make a educated decision on their own, case closed.

 

[Snowdog]

I do strongly suspect the days of $95 for a tin of Polish 7.62x25 fodder have gone the way of the dodo. However, I also believe this will increase demand for the commercial stuff. Of course this will result in a brief spike in prices, but will eventually even out likely back to current prices and quite possibly a bit less.

Shooting and collecting is fun... some seem to resist this viewpoint quite hardily.
If I were only interested in firearms strictly for defense, I would probably only have one or two and what fun would that be?

Both my M57s have proven reasonably accurate, perfectly reliable so far, obviously solid and undeniably fun. I was so thrilled with my first that I purchased a second. The results from the second mirrored the first.
I certainly don't need a stranger to tell me my experiences were the opposite of what they were as that would be just plain silly. However, usually if 9 out 10 "strangers" on the internet say the sky is blue... then there's a fairly good chance the sky really is blue.

9 out of 10 internet strangers say the M57 is a very decent Tokarev specimen. I'm one of those strangers.

 

[Coviekiller5]

I was quite dismayed to see the surplus go away myself, but I think we all knew it was coming. What did surprise me was the fact that it was so sudden, one day there was the 90 dollar a tin surplus, and then the next day it was gone, from pretty much everywhere. A lot of places didn't even bother to list it out of stock, they just took it off there site completely. I wonder why it all went out so fast? Isn't there ussualy a price increase as the supply of it gets lower? Oh well, I won't be getting rid of my Tokarev, I love the little gun, however I did get myself a 9mm barrel so that I can still shoot relatively cheaply, and actually, it works really well. Ofcourse, Sarco shipped me what appears to be a shot out barrel, buts that a different subject... Regardless, even if 7.62x25 ammo were to go away completely, its not very hard nor expensive to convert the thing to 9mm. I see no reason why not to keep my Tokarev, and to xr1200, I have no idea why your getting such horrible results with your particular toks, but mine has always been at the very least, as accurate as I am, atleast in 7.62. Honestly, if you don't like the thing, sell the damn thing, you more than likely wont lose any money.

 

[tinygnat219]

I am not questioning the accuracy or functioning of the cz52 it is a completely different design. We are talking about the yugo M57's Tokarev currently available.

CZ52 is no longer imported or currently on the market, except for used and auction sites.

Also no hate in my post, I am just stating facts and trying to inform and educate the prospective buyer of one of these current tokarev guns, the high road is supposed to be an open forum for discussion.

So far no one who has replied to my posts have even been able to dispute my fiindings on these guns, not one poster has been able to show the groups or accuracy claims of their guns, so the real question is why not !

For those that don't enjoy getting into nitpicking contests on posts like XR1200's above, there's a handy little feature called "Ignore User". It works pretty well and I've used it when there are obvious trolls. XR1200, not calling you a troll here, but it's REALLY REALLY close.

As for the Tokarev purchasers. There are many nifty reasons to purchase this firearm. For now, they're inexpensive at being under 200 bucks. They're simple to work on. They show an interesting history of design and what copying and then modifying someone else's innovation can do. They fire an interesting caliber that for now is still dirt cheap in the surplus arena. Whatever your reason for buying one, get them now as these are surplus and won't last forever. As for parts availability, buy two so that won't be a problem.

 

[wally]

I believe the main reason the surplus dried up is bc several different platforms developed conversion kits for their guns so that people could take advantage of the cheap ammo. The dry up was inevitable.

Yup, I've a CNC Machine AR 7.62x39 upper, but before I bought it I laid in a supply of ~15K rounds of the surplus ammo fully knowing it wouldn't last forever!

This will be a lot of good shooting fun for my ~$2500 investment in the upper and the ammo, although a fair amount of it is also being run through my TTC pistol.

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing another boatload or two of the surplus ammo coming in.

In any event, the ammo situation for non-corrosive current production 7.62x25 ammo is not much worse than for say .38Super or 10mm. Sure not as cheap as 9mm but not impossible to find or afford.