Yugo Tokarev M57 TT from J&G

[DasFriek]

I post a week or two back about a fun project gun.
Looking at J&G i find this gun Yugo Tokarev M57 TT
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.../4432?osCsid=7dcca8a001d404306827da3a682805d9
In the 7.62x25 caliber.

It looks like a really hard hitting fun gun with really cheap ammo if you use the old surplus.

Id like any pro's or cons on purchasing this gun as i have some extra cash and i love big bricks of steel with powerful rounds.

How well does the old surplus do at indoor ranges that dont allow steel cased or steel coated projectiles? I read they cant import steel projectiles but the cases being steel ill be stuck waiting for outdoor weather shooting? Unless i buy some higher priced S&B ammo?

Is it worth the hand picking of $10?
Is making your own wooden grips possible and worth it?

If you own one how does it compare to 1911's in the fun factor category?
Im a 1911 guy and i think this gun would be the Commie equivalent?

Last question, good idea or not?

 

[whitebb]

I got mine the other day. Had some finish wear, but very nice internally. I didn't pay for handpick.
I will write a review, within the coming weeks.

 

[OldMac]

If you like the 1911, you will like the Tok. All of the surplus is berdan primed but tons of it is brass cased so I don't think you will have a problem at an indoor range.

They are surprisingly accurate, ugly, and fun to shoot. The ammo prices have gone up from around .07 to .09/round in the last few years but still a bargain. The only reason to reload this caliber is to get HP bullets. They seem to stay out of stock at most outlets.

 

[OldMac]

I always suspect handpicking to be a crap shoot. I did pay for handpick on the M57 and got an aesthetically good gun with a near perfect bore. Since you can't buy a barrel for $10, I think it was worth it in this case.

 

[WardenWolf]

Wolf makes some good Tokarev hollowpoints, and Sellier and Bellot makes some good FMJ. You can sometimes find PRVI Partizan / PPU FMJ as well. Treat a Tokarev like a 1911, and it'll treat you well. It always gets quite the reaction at the indoor range, too, when this jet of flame shoots out the barrel with each shot.

 

[stewart51]

I bought the Romanian Tokarev a couple of years ago and love it. It has been a fine and fun shooter. I did go for the hand pick and mine looked almost new. I believe J&G emailed me a few days ago regarding a spam can of 7.62x25 polish ammo for around $80 sor 1200+ rounds, a lot of bangs for the buck!

 

[zoom6zoom]

Is making your own wooden grips possible and worth it?

Tokarevs use an unusual system to fasten the handgrips to the frame, it's like a pivoting lever, not a screw like on a 1911. You could probably make your own grips, but would probably want a sacrificial pair of originals to supply the internal parts.


Here's a decent vid on takedown and cleaning, you can see how the grip attachments work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGehSsBN_vU

 

[Shadow 7D]

marshals grips (google it) makes some awesome ones, he out of europe

 

[woad_yurt]

I have two Norincos, one of which is a 9MM, both bought on Gunbroker. I know that they were made specifically for commercial sale so they have no military-type connection or appeal but the cheaper one, a 9MM, was like new and the other was unused in the box with all of the trappings. I'd rather have a virtually or totally unused item than one that's had 40 or more years of service with who-knows-what level of care. The Norincos are made with a harder steel than the others and also have chrome-lined barrels. I don't think any of the others do.

I suggest at least considering the Norincos before you buy.

 

[BleysAhrens]

Has anyone used this yet? Makes me wish I had a 9MM 1911!!

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/7-62x25-tokarev-conversion-barrel-kit-for-1911-govt-models-in-9mm-or-38-super-new%2C-by-j-g-sales-/products_id/5619?osCsid=ee307bbe26d1b412f73f777b093596a7

 

[harmon rabb]

I post a week or two back about a fun project gun.
Looking at J&G i find this gun Yugo Tokarev M57 TT
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....27da3a682805d9
In the 7.62x25 caliber.

It looks like a really hard hitting fun gun with really cheap ammo if you use the old surplus.

Id like any pro's or cons on purchasing this gun as i have some extra cash and i love big bricks of steel with powerful rounds.

How well does the old surplus do at indoor ranges that dont allow steel cased or steel coated projectiles? I read they cant import steel projectiles but the cases being steel ill be stuck waiting for outdoor weather shooting? Unless i buy some higher priced S&B ammo?

Is it worth the hand picking of $10?
Is making your own wooden grips possible and worth it?

If you own one how does it compare to 1911's in the fun factor category?
Im a 1911 guy and i think this gun would be the Commie equivalent?

Last question, good idea or not?

Pros's -- fun as hell. Powerful, deeply penetrating round. Shoots a freakin' fireball out the muzzle. Reliable guns. Nothing quite like them.

Some indoor ranges won't let you use the surplus ammo, some will. Just depends.

Worth a handpick? Eh, probably not. They all seem to be in about the same condition, really. Then again, for $10, might as well.

Fun factor vs. a 1911? Depends on what kind of fun. Fun in shooting the tightest groups you can? Nope. 1911 wins. The tok isn't as accurate, and the trigger isn't as good. Fun as in a loud, powerful gun with a ton of muzzle blast, that shoots a fireball out front? Oh hell yeah, the tok is a blast. If the 1911 is a finely tuned classic 400hp ferrari with a show quality paint job, the tok is a primered mustang with 900 hp. Fun in a different kind of way.

Commie equivalent of a 1911? Mechanically, pretty close. As far as how they feel at the range? Eh. They're very, very different.

Good idea? Oh hell yes. About the only people I've ever heard badmouth a tok are those who haven't actually fired one.

 

[wolfen1949]

The tokarev can be a great shooter , just use the same tricks that ones use on the 1911. Trigger job is easy to to easy to fit a tight bushing . I just added white dot adjustable sights to mine. Plan on getting a 9mm barrel and will make it a 9x23, so will be able to shoot 7.62x25, 9x23, 9mm Largo. and .38 super comp from the same pistol.