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Where do my fingerprints go?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BigBlock, Dec 19, 2007.

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  1. BigBlock

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    Today I bought a big shiny Blackhawk, the first time I've ever bought a new gun at a gun store. I'm just curious...where do the fingerprints they took end up? Do they go into the AFIS system? Or just some gun registry?


    Sheesh...now I'm gonna have to start wearing gloves before I shoot someone. :banghead: :neener:
     
  2. 22-rimfire

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    Here in Tennessee, the fingerprints remain with the FFL dealer. We get finger printed with every firearm purchase through a licensed dealer. Get a carry permit and you are finger printed for all fingers as opposed to just thumbs with a firearm purchase. The digital carry permit prints are saved by the state.
     
  3. Hoppy590

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    in MA the fingerprints are for confirming your identity. they dont go anywhere when you buy a gun

    when you get the LTC/FID i imagine they go to some database
     
  4. Joey_the_Wolf

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    Wait wait wait.... Fingerprints for purchase of a firearm? Since when?? (I'm from Florida and I have never heard of that being done around here). I thought the only time you got fingerprinted was when you got a CCW. Kinda scary to think about actually...
     
  5. MachIVshooter

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    Wow, that sucks. More and more, it seems like there are only a handful of states as free as CO. Other than the post-columbine GSLH law (all firearms transaction at gunshows require NICS BG check), we are only subject to federal regulations. No printing (except CCW), no waiting periods, no limit on purchases, no registration or FOID cards, NFA stuff OK*, open carry statewide*, no regulation on handguns in automobiles, no safe storage BS, no restrictions on firearm types or magazine capacities*, etc. I feel very fortunate to live here.

    * Denver makes their own rules, desptie being in direct conflict with state law.
     
  6. BigBlock

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    Hmmm....that's interesting, I thought the prints were a federal thing. Other than that it's no big deal to get a firearm here, just a few minutes for the BG check and you're out the door.
     
  7. average_shooter

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    Huh?!? Fingerprinted with each firearms purchase? :confused:

    And what does that serve...?
     
  8. bfhcards

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    I bought all three of my guns in PA they didnt take my fingerprints. I didnt realize they did that some places.
     
  9. RoadkingLarry

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    Wow! I'm spoiled here in Oklahoma, Prints to buy???:eek:
    First I've ever heard I think I'd have to check and find out that it is actually state law and not some "proactive" BS.
     
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    here in CT you only have to get fingerprinted for a background check when you get your carry permit. no fingerprints ever after that.
     
  11. Pigspitter

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    on the tips of your fingers?
     
  12. oklahoma caveman

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    aint that the truth. i was upset bout the fingerprinting thing to get my drivers liscense renewed but man, every gun you buy they fingerprint you? thats insane
     
  13. Ed Ames

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    CA wants a thumb print on the 4473. As far as I know it is not scanned and is there "if they need it". It sucks but is a minor consideration compared to the fees and waiting period. The waiting period is total BS because CA has a computerized system that can give a yes/no in 20 seconds.

    In Texas you fill out the form, wait 20 minutes while the store make a phone call, and walk out with the gun. Much nicer.
     
  14. Scanr

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    Wow, you should move to a more gun friendly state like Nevada. No fingerprints needed here.
     
  15. Paulus

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    Indiana?

    When I submitted my fingerprints for a "License to Carry" here in Indiana, I was wondering the same thing.

    Did they just check them against some database or permanently keep them in some database?

    First time I've ever been fingerprinted in my life.

    Kinda wondering...

    Paulus
     
  16. Owen Sparks

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    Don't they all end up in the FBI's database eventually?
     
  17. Educated Hillbilly

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    Gotta love Kentucky. Don't have to be printed to buy, and no prints for CCW!
     
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    The OP's question was what happens to those fingerprints? The fact that he was fingerprinted and the justification for that is moot. It is a done deal. Now he wants to know where his fingerprints are going. Can anyone answer that?
     
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    I glad I live in a free state No prints to get a CCW or to buy a gun. People need to get that changed
    Long live Ky were I can carry all sorts of weapons with out printing.
     
  20. Jeff White

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    And some people on here have the nerve to look down their nose at Illinois because of FOID cards....:scrutiny: I'd much rather give the state $1.00 a year for a FOID card then deal with the mess and hassle of being fingerprinted every time I bought a firearm.

    I wouldn't worry too much about it. I doubt that that many gun shop employees can fingerprint customers well enough so the system wouldn't reject them if they ever needed to be used for identification. What's next for you folks in the free states, AFIS terminals in every gunshop? :neener:

    Jeff - who doesn't like the Illinois FOID cards but is quite amused to find out that people who put up with much more degrading hurdles to jump over to buy a firearm actually have the nerve to tell all of us to move out of Illinois. I suggest every member in Tennessee and Oregon....MOVE TO A FREE STATE :neener:
     
  21. jackstinson

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    On most everything you touch. Sand them off or wear gloves.
    Jack
     
  22. El Tejon

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    The fingerprint cards are kept in Jeff White's basement, along with the photos for our Form 4s.:neener:
     
  23. GeezerwithGuns

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    I was fingerprinted for my CCW "background" check - a requirement in Colorado. What I found interesting was the fact that different Federal & State databases, obviously do not speak to each other. In my line of work, I've been fingerprinted numerous times, and have had background checks run that are many times more stringent than for CCW.

    That my CCW took the "normal" amount of time pretty much confirmed that the various Federal agencies do not communicate (either at all, or not very well).:confused:
     
  24. RPCVYemen

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    That is my assumption - regardless of all of the "privacy protection".

    My working assumption is that once you give your fingerprints to any government agency, they end up in the AFIS.

    I had to apply for a security clearance 25 years ago - as a Peace Corps Volunteer! We needed to know the embassy evacuation plans, so we needed come level of security clearance. That's all in addition to a background check.

    My assumption is that those fingerprints will be stored forever somewhere. I know the laws specify all kinds of protection, but once an electronic document has been created, I assume its immortal. Who's going to bust the FBI for keeping fingerprint records that should have been destroyed.

    Oh my gosh, now I am starting to sound like one of the black helicopter guys! :)

    Mike

    Mike
     
  25. Jeff White

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    El Tejon said;
    Dang it, you let the secret out :banghead:. Now we'll have to move them. I'll be enroute to Lafayette with them and you can keep them in your office until another location is found for them. Maybe your secretary can file the last few document boxes I received. ;)

    Jeff
     
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