Where should the eyes be during the draw?

[harrygunner]

MinnMooney's "McDonalds scenario" is an example of what I visualize while training.

I should mention the "glance" happens while the gun is still in the holster and my hand is on the grip. For the rest of the draw, I do have my eyes on the target.

I've attended these practice classes for several years and can keep hundreds of hits in a 4" to 6" circle from 10 yards.

I suspect the answer will come from a different kind of practice using dynamic, moving targets. I may have to rely more on memory of where everyone is before the balloon goes up if the BG is moving.

Glad this has created a discussion.

The gross motor skills needed to draw from concealment are harder than shooting at the range. I've seen newcomers, good "square range" shooters, miss the target and the entire mounting rack.

Hopefully, all here have a way to regularly practice the whole process.

 

[geekWithA.45]

The gross motor skills needed to draw from concealment are harder than shooting at the range. I've seen newcomers, good "square range" shooters, miss the target and the entire mounting rack.

Honestly, the "square range", and even more so, the "small booth" is a huge problem. It is entirely the wrong tool for SD training and practice. It's form enforces innapropriate function, leading to bad habits.

 

[LAK]

Drawing is a skill in itself and encompasses many elements. Other issues aside; you need to settle on getting a grip on your handgun the same way, the hand placement, fingers, the same places - every time. This is crucial to consistant shooting. From the first movement of the arm, hand to grip, through the draw, gun up, and onto the sights (or "point") - the draw should be a continuous, fluid and smooth motion.

You can look at your hand and gun during the draw as you develope your technique. Once you have established where everything should be, how it should move etc, you do this by other sensory input. You should learn to recognize how your correct grip feels in your hand.

This takes slow, deliberate repetitions of the same actions over and over again until they become almost unconcscious. Once you have attained consistancy, you can slowly increase speed. If you begin to loose the crucial key elements, you must slow down until you have regained them. That is the way to master the draw, and once mastered there is no need to look at you hand, gun or the movements involved. Other skills such as reloading, clearing stoppages etc are learned and practiced in a similar manner.

To hit a target you must be looking at it. To shoot accurately demands the visual alignment of the gun - with or without sights - on the target.

In an actual shooting engagement with an antagonist, when not actually engaged in shooting at your target, you are scanning for other threats, seeking better cover, planning your escape, etc as applicable. Your peripheral vision plays a major role here. That is really another whole subject in itself.

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[FerFAL]

Eyes on your enemy ALWAYS. Before the draw, during the draw, while shooting and while holstering.
The only moment when you get your eyes off the target for a fraction of time if when you “look for his friends” ( left and right, check your back) right after you dropped him.

FerFAL