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Where to keep guns when staying on campus?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by natedog, Oct 2, 2005.

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  1. natedog

    natedog Member

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    I've started looking at prospective colleges, and I've noticed that none of the schools that interest me allow firearms in the dorms. Do you guys have any suggestions on how I can keep my guns handy without them being in the dorm? Perhaps locked in the trunk of my car?
     
  2. Alex45ACP

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    On my campus you cannot bring any weapons onto the property.

    Off campus housing maybe.
     
  3. firefighter4884

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    Nate...

    I'm a senior in college this year. I purchased my first pistols this summer (curses on NJ...) anyway... I live off campus, and store my pistols at my house. I also hold onto a friend's pistol (he's a good friend, and I know the firearms history). I also hold onto proof that he purchased the firearm and owns it legally in case I ever have an issue with an LEO.

    My suggestion, find out if there is some kind of firearms or shooting club at yoru school. You may find someone who lives close by that is willing to hold onto your pistol or rifle for you. Alternatively, if you find a school that still has a competitive team, you MIGHT be able to store you weapon where the school stores the teams rifles and pistols.

    --Jim
     
  4. zahc

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    Live off campus. I always have and have never regretted it. There is no way I could ever live on campus.
     
  5. natedog

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    I've always heard that its best to live on campus your freshman year to make friends and such. Any truth to that?
     
  6. Azrael256

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    That one is going to be tricky. If you do it, you'll have to rent the apartment in your parents' name. Every campus I've been on has a rule about freshmen living on campus or with the 'rents. My school makes you stay on campus until you're 21.

    My guns stay at Dionysusigma's house. I wouldn't have left them there the day I moved in here, but I've gotten to know him well enough that leaving just about anything at his place is perfectly safe. It may take you a little while to develop those kinds of contacts, particularly because you won't have so much association with upperclassmen (who are more likely to live off campus) your first year. I couldn't leave my guns at his place before because he was my roommate here on campus.

    The only other option I can think of is to find a gun club with lockers. I have only seen such a club a few times, but it's worth looking into. It shouldn't cost but a few dollars a month to rent a locker, although you may have to buy a membership to be able to store it there.
     
  7. Koobuh

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    Campus police station

    At least, when I brought my Mosin back to college with me, I stored it there initially. Special window on the station and everything, the officer was even friendly. :what:

    Of course it was Washington State University, WA's cow college, and many of the students needed somewhere to keep their deer rifles and shotguns, since on-campus housing doesn't allow firearms. Your situation may differ.

    I would start by contacting the campus security/LEO department and asking if they offer on-campus secure storage. That is, if you're interested in having a 3rd party hold onto your baby, in unknown conditions.

    FWIW, I only kept my Mosin there for a couple weeks, then kept it at my shooting buddy's apartment, off campus.
     
  8. chopinbloc

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    on your person.

    without getting into a discussion about the morality of obeying immoral laws and regulations the fact is that if you want to bring a firearm onto campus it will have to be on your person.
     
  9. Pietro Beretta

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    Some people carry withought a Carry Permit, is it legal NO but they do it.

    If your that worried about your well-being I say break the law :scrutiny:
    You can hide a firearm withought any one knowing, you just need to be smart/responsible about it.

    Evin if you do rent an apartment, their are quite a few people who do NOT allow firearms in their house. Be sure to read the rental agreement and to make sure they dont prohibit them in that rental.

    HOWEVER again, if your that worried about your saftey.............
     
  10. natedog

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    Oh, its not necessarily to keep them handy for defense, just to be able to have them available to go shooting once in a while.
     
  11. Robert Hairless

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    I understand that some colleges or universities still have a rifle or pistol team, and that at least some of them have facilities for securing firearms owned by students. My information on that point is a couple of years old and might be obsolete. But it would be worth looking in the catalog to see if the schools that interest you have such a team.

    Don't tell anyone connected with other schools about your interest in firearms. You might not get admitted. Colleges and universities are completely open to every idea that has received group approval, but not to other ideas. That's not the way they used to be but that is the way they are and have been for the past several years. I am not advocating that you lie if you are asked directly. I can't imagine that you will be asked, though, unless you initiate questions.

    The suggestions about off-campus storage are good suggestions. Another possibility for storing handguns is a safety deposit box. That suggestion might provoke cries of "that's illegal" but so far as I know the issue is decided by each state's laws about where firearms are prohibited. I haven't checked any but my own home state's law on the subject and there is no such prohibition. You can check a summary of each state's laws online through packing.org. Look at the top of the page for "state ccw info." Of course you should be discreet.

    Me, I would not simply ask an off-campus friend or relative to store your guns. You would have responsibility if they were misused or stolen.

    I urge you to not break the law by carrying illegally, especially not on or near any school. It's likely that you will be discovered. Then you face the prospect of becoming a felon, spend time in jail, be expelled from school, and find yourself unable to get admitted to another school. Think it through. What do you do with the gun when you take a shower, strip for physical education courses, or go on a date? What happens when people bump into you as you walk through crowded halls or stairways or take a crowded elevator? What prevents a roommate or acquaintance from reporting you or sharing your secret with other people? More important, to me at least, why start this phase of your life by making a deliberate decision to cheat and lie? Use the university to develop your moral and ethical capacity, not to destroy it. Become a better person, not worse.

    Whoever advised you that it's a good idea to live on campus for at least your freshman year has given you excellent advice. It's not only a matter of making friends but also a way to get some of the pressure daily life off you so you can cope better with all the other pressures you'll encounter in a new environment. Student residences also are information distribution centers for such things as local and school events, clubs, and policies. Unfortunately they're often noisy places that are more conducive to partying than studying. Whether that's what you want depends on why you're in school. They're certainly a valid part of the university experience, though, and it might be a shame to miss that part.
     
  12. GunnySkox

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    Here at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi!), it's really easy to just roll on down to the Campus PD and register/store your firearms. You fill out a form with your name, the serial number, make and model of your guns, and all you have to do to check them in and out is pop down to the PD, flash your student ID, grab your gun, and go (unfortunately, they don't store ammo [not enough space in the lockers], so there's, like, 250 rounds of ammunition just hanging around in my car, in a locked box).

    ~GnSx
    "That was FUN!" ~Friend Nina, after shooting for the first time today.
     
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    A lot of large schools have public safety/police buildings that provide storage for student's firearms. This used to be the normal way of doing things. Even the liberal mecca of Western Washington University (putting the L into Liberal Arts since 1800 and something) provided firearms storage with 24/7 access. You usually have to dig pretty deep into the handbook to find out about it though. Don't even bother asking your R.A. about it unless you know for a fact that they arent a jerk (and you dont know this, ever).

    Alternatly I suppose that you could rent out a nice secure storage unit, prefferably climate controlled, although that seems like a silly way of spending money to me.
     
  14. El Tejon

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    We used our guitar cases in the dorm rooms. A lot of people at Indiana University played "guitar". :D

    I'd go off-campus if you can arrange it.

    So, to which universities are you applying, nate?
     
  15. natedog

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    I haven't applied anywhere yet, but I'm looking at Rice University, Vanderbilt University, UC Santa Barbara, and Reed College, with a pretty strong preference towards Reed. The plan right now is for a Political Science major (or pre-law if I go to Rice), followed up by law school somewhere.
     
  16. ChickenHawk

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    +1 on checking the rules in the state where you will go to school.

    In Texas it is illegal to carry (even if you have a CHL) at any school. You can drive through and drop your kid off, but if you set foot on their property (which you kinda have to do if you are the student!) you may not carry.

    Absolutely do not disregard the law. If you do and you get caught you may well regret the results.

    BTW- Anyone recommending you break the law is also violating the rules of THR.

    Regards,
    ChickenHawk
     
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    Azrael:
    What school? PM if you prefer.
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree.
     
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    Hi all,

    When I was in college during the Civil War, more appropriately known as the War of Northern Agression (WONA), I rented a closet at a commercial storage facility and put a hundred dollar Stack-on type gun unit in there. It worked out fine for the $50 a month in rent.

    John
     
  20. The Grand Inquisitor

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    Reed!!!! Wow, that's a pretty out there school, but I almost went there myself (I go to the University of Iowa).

    First off, you may just want to leave them home for a year with your parents until next year when you can get your own apartment and freely store them. Don;t listen to any of the yutzes here and bring them with you into the dorm, as you are liable to get arrested, kicked out of the dorm, and possibly kick out of school for doing that. Bringing any contraband into dorms is becoming increasingly verboten, but guns are light years ahead of bongs and bottles of cheap vodka - don't do it!

    That being said, unless your school has one of those awful "must live in dorm" policies you really should take out a few grand extra from your student loan (I don;t have any help paying for school so I take out big loans every semester) and get a nice, small apartment for yourself.

    You won't have to put up with fellow annoying 18 year olds (sorry...they just are), you won't get fat eating all that tasty dorm food, you won;t have to use communal toilets and showers (Ach du Lieber!) and you'll be able to have whatever the hel| you want in your apartment! Yes, that means you'll be able to set your bong right next to the bed if you like!

    All that being said, I wouldn't skip living on campus out of hand just because you can't keep your guns with you. Illicit sex is always just around the corner when you live in the dorms (and if you go to a school like Reed...well, you will likely have *quite* a bit of enjoyment) and you're usually in the center of campus life. When you go away to school you should concentrate on getting yourself ready to have a bang-up first semester - pure 5.0 GPA (although at Reed you don't really get grades...) so that you can set a pace for yourself that will lead to excellence. Don't worry so much about your guns while you are at school - it will be nice once and a while to go to the range (if you don;t have a car to get to a range...why bother even having them?) but that should not be your main concern - you need to concentrate on your studies.

    PS - Don't do pre-law - it looks bad on a law school application. Poly Sci isn't much better - Everyone who wants to go to law school does Poly Sci. Do something different, and show that you are an individual with real interests that really wants to get new things done. Almost all of the top Med and Law schools are looking for people who do more than the traditional tracks to get there because it shows that they have tried new things and been put in new situations that they can think themselves through. Do what you are interested in (and if that *really* is Poly Sci then go for it) and work hard, and nothing will be out of your reach.
     
  21. Azrael256

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    Oklahoma City University. The university in the Metro without suicide bombers. You know, serving the community in the United Methodist tradition in the middle of a thriving metropolis. Nobody knows just what that means, but apparently it's what we do. Come by, we can go have a beer.
     
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    Yes. I'm not the most social person in the world and staying in the dorms the first two years of my undergrad made a big difference. It has its ups and downs, but I'd highly recommend it through it all. College wouldn't have been the same had I stayed at home or in an apartment the whole time.

    About your major: If you're considering something different for your undergrad en route to Law School, try looking into Philosophy, Math, or some sort of engineering degree. I've heard that philosophy is actually a great major because you're doing a lot of argument writing, or at least I did in the two or three lower division classes I took. Same idea behind Math. Both majors are about writing proofs which would be good for a Pre-Law background.

    About your guns: I'm pretty sure in ********** that you're allowed to keep unloaded guns in your trunk. At least I believe it was legal after reading that 60 some page book or whatever. Just don't even open up your trunk within 1000 feet or yards of the school.

    BTW, how did you narrow your list down to those schools? No matter what you do, just make sure that you know what you're getting into when committing to a school. There's a lot of stuff to ask that you can't find out by just looking at an online catalog/website.
     
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    Try Michigan Tech, in the UP of Michigan. The Dorms have Gun Lockers. So many hunters there, and thousands of acres of Public Hunting lands!!!!
    They even have an indoor shooting range, and you can rent a 22 pistol there for practice!!!
     
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    I would be very hesitant to bring a gun into a campus dorm where it is agaisnt the rules/illegal.

    Campus security can pretty much wander in whenever they please, and they very well might if they here a rumor that you have a gun, or if you are justhaving a party. Maintenance, and other staff will have keys to your room, and will come in from time to time without any sort of warning.
     
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    Living on-campus for at least your first year is something I would recommend. Most of my good friends from college are people who lived in the same dorm, same floor as I did my freshman year. It is likely you will end up being closer friends with your collegemates than any of your high school friends, simply because you are living with them. At my school, there were some incoming freshmen who turned in their housing deposits late and either got stuck in university-owned off-campus apartments or stuffed into upperclassmen dorm vacancies when somebody decided last-minute to live off-campus. These people eventually did fine (or maybe I just met the most outgoing of them), but they missed out on an important social experience. Apartments and upperclassmen dorms are like hotels -- people come in, go out, but don't talk much; by the end of your second year, you've mostly found your place socially, and people tend to be less outgoing with their neighbors.

    I didn't get interested in shooting until about the time I graduated, but I would not recommend keeping guns on-campus even if you wish to disregard the rules. In my freshman year, people left their doors open almost all of the time, and people would come by all the time to visit. This can be a great social environment, but is sure not a secure environment. Theft is assuredly the most prevalent crime on any college campus. If the college doesn't have a shooting club with storage, consider renting your own storage at a secure, climate controlled facility.
     
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