Which 1911 should I get.

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I've been looking around for another 1911 for a while now, and I'm not finding exactly what I am looking for.

I am looking for a carbon steel frame and slide, 5" barrel (full size), as many real steel parts as I can possibly get, preferably new, and with a modern finish (durable black finish akin to armory kote, black teflon, armor tuff, etc).

Spur hammer would be preferred, though i worry about hammer bite. Stainless barrel and bushing. etc. (for aesthetic purposes as I like the contrast) Price is concern, however there is no set amount to spend at this time, I would like to stay under $1500 preferably much under.

Now with all of this said, let me lay some background. I purchased a stainless mil spec about 2 years ago, and did some work to it myself. I changed the lock work out, put on a beavertail safety, and pretty much changed everything but the barrel. I have a good machine shop with a mill, lathe, and plenty of other machine shop things. I am a mechanical engineer technologist and I am decent at machining. Now with all that said, I am NOT a certified gunsmith, though I am confident I can do whatever I need with a 1911. (i also have the Kuhnhausen books on the 1911, great books by the way).

Is there any production level guns that would fit the bill, any production guns that would require little modification, or am I best off with just getting a fit slide and frame and doing it all myself?

Also; as an aside, should the firearm ever need to be used in self defense or defense of another life, would it be disadvantageous for me to use a home gunsmithed "custom" 1911, legally speaking?
 
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I love my Springfield Armory TRP. Price and everything else you mentioned (except spur hammer) are right in line. You'd even have money left over for ammo.



 
The Kimber Warrior runs ~$1050 new - but it kind of fails your "all-steel parts" requirement (mine too, FWIW). You could replace most of those parts yourself, however, and have a good slide/frame/barrel/sights that meets your desires.

The TRP is a good buy, but I can't find one for less than $1350 around here.

Les Baer has a couple of models in the $1500 range - fantastic fit/finish/trigger/parts quality, but if you want it in a modern black finish, you're looking at another $200-300 over that price. Don't think you can get a Baer Coat/Cote gun for under $1800-2000.
 
Just FYI, anything and everything you do will be held against you should you use your weapon in self defense, justified or not. The type of weapon you have, the kind of ammo you carry, the brand, the caliber, everything will be held against you.

I'd try to stay away from any home smithing on a carry weapon.
 
I'd try to stay away from any home smithing on a carry weapon.

yeah, thats what i was afraid of. I guess i wouldn't have asked had I not thought it was a potential problem.

Oh one more requirement would be seres 70... i hate the idea of other "junk" cluttering up my wonderful and simple pistol design.

However the spur hammer i could take or leave.
 
Kimber/1911a1 models...

If I were looking for a quality 1911a1 .45acp I would buy a new model Kimber. I like the LAPD SWAT model and the Desert Warrior. I'm left handed so the ambi-safety doesn't not work that well with CT lasergrips in these models, IMO ;) but the basic design is still worth the $$$.

Springfield SIGarms and S&W 1911a1s are decent too.

Rusty
 
I believe Colt has the least amount of MIM parts for a production 1911 if that's what you mean by "most steel parts."

Now, $1500 price limit is a whole nuther story. I can wholeheartedly recommend something that wont have any MIM parts, and fantastic fit and quality. Look into a Les Baer Premier II from Sporting Arms. Little less than $1500 and all worth it!
 
i'll look into the les baer's more.

by real steel i mean forged from barstock type stuff... no MIM or cast if possible.

Also can anyone else comment on the legality issues of using a home gun smithed pistol in defense?
 
On the legality of home smithing:

I believe it is 100% legal, as long as you stay within the confines of the law...IE no full auto fun.

If you ever have to use it, the following court battle will be ugly, and anything done to the weapon will be held against you. Even if you simply install a smaller hammer so it doesn't act like a spur, in a lawyers eyes it will just make it "more deadlier."

I would suggest carrying something box stock and that's it.
 
How 'bout Dan Wesson

Go to cz-usa.com and look at the dan wessons (box in lower right corner). I picked up a pointman 7 and love it. The price was $850 at my local shop.
 
I believe that the circumstances of your use of force will outweigh the condition of the weapon used. A good use of force with a home smithed weapon will be good. A bad use of force with a completely stock weapon will be bad. I think if you are thinking of using force you should sit down with a knowledgable lawyer and get the complete lecture on acceptable use of force in your jurisdiction.
 
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Do yourself a favor and look into Les Baer pistols. Give John at Pro Load Distributors, 208.772.2339, a call if you become interested or need any advice on these.

I would also suggest visiting http://forum.m1911.org if you haven't already.
 
Rock Island

Aw heck, and here I was gonna suggest a Rock Island Armory 1911.

I'm new to the 1911 game. I'm still shopping, don't yet own one, but I'm finding myself increasingly impressed with this make.

I believe it fulfills the OP requirements, but that could just be my ignorance.

As I'm still very much in (1911) learning mode, perhaps someone could illuminate one way or the other.
 
If you are willing to spend $1500 Les Baer makes the best 1911 you will find in this price range. The PII will run you a little over $1400 and the TRS is slightly more than $1600.
 
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