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Which 32 acp?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by WisBorn, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. chicharrones

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    Those counts are clean from the start. Most reliable ammo I used in that particular gun was solid round nose CCI Mini Mags. My Bobcat didn't run well with hollow points or prominent shoulder profile bullets in .22 LR.

    The gun is clapped out now and is pretty much a single shot.

    I replaced the usual suspect parts many years ago, but the chamber is pretty much no good anymore from all the times I've had to smooth out dings from ammo misfeeds. Most hollow point ammo would stovepipe right out of the magazine and the rim of the cartridge would get slammed sideways into the chamber opening by the slide. The fact that cartridge brass would be stiff enough to ding a steel chamber mouth in my Bobcat was extremely frustrating.
     
  2. wiscoaster

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    Sorry asking stupid questions, but never heard (specifically) of chamber break-in ... would that be done same as barrel break-in, and if so, doesn't barrel break-in cleaning also take care of the chamber at the same time if you're cleaning the chamber (ie chamber brush)?
     
  3. JERRY

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    firing a gun makes parts mate with each other over and over and polishes them in a sense. this eventually smooths things out. softer metal feeding and extracting from the chamber does the same thing.
     
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    Ummmm ... <still waiting for caffeine to kick in> ... that sounds like a "yes". :)
     
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    bore brush cleaning I guess could do it but geez I think that would take an awful lot of cleaning compared to firing.
     
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    Well, ya, but you only do it a few times when the barrel is new. Can't remember specific rifle at the moment, but I think for one of the rifles I was considering the maker's recommended break-in procedure was 10 cycles of shoot once and clean, then shoot a group, and if you're happy with the group you're done; if you're not, repeat. After that just normal cleaning intervals.
     
  7. JERRY

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    I've never seen a .32 acp rifle. can you post a pic of yours? thanks.
     
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    Oooooops ... sorry, wasn't paying attention to topic; ya, that would be a wonderment, wouldn't it? :confused:
     
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  9. Monac

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  10. Monac

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    I don't own one, but here's a link to a picture of the Armi Jaeger 32 ACP rifle: https://www.icollector.com/Armi-Jager-AP74-32-ACP-SN-61985_i32247984

    I think they were made back in the 1980's. I saw them on GunBroker once in a while. (They turned up when I was looking for a Jaeger 32 pistol. SInce I got one of those, I don't see these rifles anymore.)

    I think some German company (Haenel? Rheinmetall?) made a 32 automatic semi-auto rifle back before WWI because I think I saw a video about it on the "Forgotten Weapons" YouTube channel.
     
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    Thanks!! Found it!! Qualifies for semi-topical:

     
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    4 pages and this question is not addressed, thats amazing.
     
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  13. Monac

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    First, the answers actually given, by being about 32 ACP pistols, implicitly answer that question "No". If someone asks that question, and you tell him about 32 pistols he might like, you are effectively saying, no, don't skip it for something else.

    Second, if you answer it "Yes, skip it for something else", you are not being very helpful unless you make a suggestion about what other cartridge to consider. And that opens up a virtually infinite can of worms of alternatives. EVERYBODY will have their own idea of the best alternative, and every other cartridge under the sun could be suggested. That does not seem useful. (I'm a big fan of 9mm Browning Long myself, and the great thing is, there is almost no competition for it in even the worst ammo shortages!)
     
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    I've had several .32acp pistols over the years, among them; Beretta, Llama, Sig, Seecamp, CZ and Walther. All had some nice features or qualities.

    32acpsmall.jpg
    Farrar_Grips_on_Beretta_81.jpg

    My favorites are:
    Sig P230 B 32 which has all of the features of the famous .380acp models. It is very lightweight, very reliable, holds 8+1 rounds, good trigger and sights.
    Beretta 81 that again matches it's .380 siblings. Super reliable and accurate.
    Seecamp LWS32 that jewel of a tiny pocket gun. Quirky but lovable and dependable.

    Honorable mentions;
    My CZ83 suffered from rimlock, due to the "old style" magazines that came with it but otherwise was very enjoyable gun. Accurate but not reliable.
    Who can't love the styling and feel of the Walthers? Mine was a NDS police trade in PP.
    The Llama was OK.
     
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    Cool grips on that Beretta!! :thumbup:
     
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  16. SHOOT1SAM

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    Unless I missed it, no one has mentioned the Zastava M70.

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  17. chicharrones

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    If you don't want .32 ACP, the answer is easy. If you still want a soft shootin' compact sized autoloading pistol for fun, collecting, or even low recoil "whatever", get a .22 LR or .22 WMR pistol.

    Some of the guns recommended in this thread also came in a .22 LR version. Finding a .22 WMR may bump up the size and get you into modern polymer frames like the KelTec PMR30, though.

    The thing about .32 ACP is either you're a fan or you're not. I think it's a dandy little cartridge in classic auto pistols or even small pocket pistols.
     
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  18. Monac

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    Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the Zastava is as good a pistol as the others mentioned in this thread. It's cheap again now, which is nice, but to me, it's a kludge of a design - "How can we make a cheap 32 with our Tokarev machinery?" I guess it's a pretty good answer to that question, but to me, it's not a good gun otherwise. Especially for something designed in 1970! It would have been hot stuff in 1910, and OK in 1920, but after the Walther PP showed up in 1930, it was outdated. In 1970, it was remarkably antiquated. I guess it's still a good plinker, but it would not occur to me to recommend it to anybody for anything except technical interest.
     
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  20. SHOOT1SAM

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    I think the Zastava M70 perfectly fits what the OP was asking for...

    Sam
     
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  21. Monac

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    Good! Then tell him about it.
     
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    There's a bunch of them on GunBroker now. Some of them have great big adjustable rear sights. Those would tend to make them better shooters but worse pocket guns, I think. Prices are all over the place, from $225 to $375 (plus shipping & transfer fee).
     
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  24. JERRY

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    I had thought very hard on the Sig P230 in .32 acp but didn't go with it because of the additional thumb safety and grip frame side poke lanyard.
     
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  25. SHOOT1SAM

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    Since he liked my post...I guess I have.

    Remember Monac, just because you don’t like a particular pistol, it doesn’t mean that other people won’t like it either; options for everybody makes the world go ‘round.

    And...I am finished with this ‘conversation’.

    Sam
     
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