Which 45-70 lever action?

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Are you saying that the brownings were produced only as a saddle ring carbine, or was there also an actual rifle model?
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No, they were produced at least as a 22" SRC and a 26" octagon rifle configuration. Originally, a saddle ring could be ordered on anything and carbines were not the only configurations to carry them. They are just typically seen on carbines. So the saddle ring does not really differentiate between a rifle and a carbine. It's everything else.

It has an end cap on the forearm, and no barrel band. I've always thought of it as a rifle, but would it be called a carbine due to it's butt plate and saddle ring?
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If it has a forend cap and dovetailed magazine hanger, it should also have a steel crescent butt plate. As opposed to a carbine style buttplate.
 
Thanks again for the clarification. I'm sure I'll have more questions when I get closer to being able to buy the darn thing. haha
 
I'd look for a Model 1886 "Extra Light". I've got a Jap-made (Miroku) Winchester that I like a lot. I installed a Williams "FoolProof" receiver sight on it and have been well-pleased with its perfomance, both in terms of its accuracy and reliability. The rifle is nicely finished and the workmanship is impeccable. Yes, it has the oft-criticized tang safety but that's not a big deal for me.
 
The 1886 is the strongest, smoothest and most refined levergun available. They are also commonly found under four figures for used guns. Look for Brownings and late model Winchesters. I passed on a really nice used Browning last year for $750. Marlins are good guns as well.
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couldnt have said it better
 
Killed the heck outta that milk jug, think the 45-70 is enough gun Billy ? Neat video and NICE rifle !

How's the shoulder? They always seem to thump harder with targets, once meat is on the other end of the barrel you don't seem to feel the recoil as much.

Rossi is making their copy of the Marlin 336 in 45-70 they call it the Rio Grande, I might try one of those since I already load 45-70.

Welcome to the high road !
 
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Check out the Turnbull .45/70, you'll be glad you did. Every one I've seen is very well finished and worked smoothly. I'd buy one myself if I didn't have a nice original Winchester .45/70 lever rifle.
 
My lgs had a Henry. I was suprised at the fit and finish and the smooth action. I have no idea as to how strong it is, but I was more impressed with it than the current "Marlins".
 
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Bought a Miroku Winchester 1886 Extra Light Grade 1 brand new last week with 4 boxes of Buffalo Bore ammo.
Anecdotal reports say the Miroku action is stiff because of the lawyer parts (rebounding hammer, multi-part trigger linkage).
I cycled my rifles action several hundred times in front of the TV and it is as smooth as silk after the break in.
The 1886 EL was a limited run and is now classed by Winchester as a historic/discontinued model.
I love the light weight (a tad over 7 pounds) and I WON'T be scoping this rifle (scout scope) as I find the factory sights are very fine & precise and suitable to the purpose of short to medium range thick brush hunting of deer , elk & moose..
Installed an Uncle Mikes 2/3 band on the mag tube and a swivel eye in the buttstock and am using a Quaker "Claw" soft neoprene sling which won't slip off my shoulder like leather slings sometimes do.
Can't wait to shoot it.
Must be someone out there who has shot and game field tested this gun.:D
What is your opinion of it?
 
I also recently bought a Miroku made Winchester 1886 Extra Light. I couldn't be happier with it. I bought mine used for $800 and I'll eat my hat if the previous owner even shot the thing. It also had Lyman front and rear (peep) sights so I'm really happy with it. By far my favorite rifle I have ever owned.
 
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Bought a Miroku Winchester 1886 Extra Light Grade 1 brand new last week with 4 boxes of Buffalo Bore ammo.
Anecdotal reports say the Miroku action is stiff because of the lawyer parts (rebounding hammer, multi-part trigger linkage).
I cycled my rifles action several hundred times in front of the TV and it is as smooth as silk after the break in.
The 1886 EL was a limited run and is now classed by Winchester as a historic/discontinued model.
I love the light weight (a tad over 7 pounds) and I WON'T be scoping this rifle (scout scope) as I find the factory sights are very fine & precise and suitable to the purpose of short to medium range thick brush hunting of deer , elk & moose..
Installed an Uncle Mikes 2/3 band on the mag tube and a swivel eye in the buttstock and am using a Quaker "Claw" soft neoprene sling which won't slip off my shoulder like leather slings sometimes do.
Can't wait to shoot it.
Must be someone out there who has shot and game field tested this gun.:D
What is your opinion of it?
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Nice, very nice.
 
Seems this old thread has new legs.

The Marlin rifle is the same weight as the Winchester Extra Lightweight 1886. It also has a longer lineage than the Winchester. I do not own either as I prefer the single shot rifles, nice Ballard by the way.

guitarguy314, did you ever get 45-70?
 
Well I am still happy with my Jap Winchester 1886 to date. I installed a small red dot using a Taylor mount and it is deadly and fast. No regrets here......
 
As I reported about a year ago in this thread, I mounted a Williams FoolProof receiver sight on my 1886 Extra Light Weight Winchester repo and I'm very pleased with the set-up. I have Williams receiver sights mounted on several of my "brush/deep woods" rifles, where quick handling and fast sight acquisition are priorites. You will find that the proper use of peep sights are way faster than the factory irons that came with your rifle.
 
I recently picked up one of the Browning 1886 Saddle Ring Carbines that appeared to be unfired and I love it. The fit and finish is exceptional, from the fitting of the walnut, to the deep, lustrous bluing. Every part and piece seems to fit together perfectly.

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I have owned a Miroku 1886 Extra Lightweight rifle since they first came on the market.
The gun weighs the same as an 1873 Trapdoor Carbine, carries five shots and can handle loads way stouter than the '73 ever could, nuff said.
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omnilo, Nice looking rifle

Not sure why you would need stouter loads, the old black powder loads are still good loads.
 
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Not sure why you would need stouter loads, the old black powder loads are still good loads.
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I'm guessing his point is that you can feed an 1886 anything you want because the action is rock solid. I generally only shoot blackpowder through mine (because it's wicked fun) but it's nice to know that I can fire any 45/70 loads on the market today. Even the Marlin 1895 eventually hits a limit I believe, but the 1886 can eat anything.
 
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