Im not going to get a commemorative. I think the best way to commemorate the 1911 is to buy one for serious use and shoot it a bunch. As such I will probably be buying either a Nighthawk GRP, a Springfield Pro, or a STI Legacy. Im leaning hard toward the Legacy atm because I already have some custom shop guns from the others. I much prefer my "copies" over anything made by Colt. The original design has been improved upon vastly.
Which Centennial 1911 Will You Throw Money At?
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yeti
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Now this would be fitting.
I may not want to pay for it, but, by god I sure would love to shoot it. The slide could use the Colt Royal Blue treatment, but if it was given to me, I would keep my complaints to myself.
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To buy anything but a COLT 1911 is kind of like celebrating YOUR birthday on your step-child's birthday...
Sure, they're your kid, and they may even resemble you... but there's no genetic, blood relation... not to mention, you don't even have the same birthday... plus you're seperated by 50+ years.
Just doesn't make sense. How in the HECK can any manufacturer celebrate the 100 year anniversary of someone else's work/creation?! It's nearly a fraud. If you haven't been consistenly producing a 1911 for 100 years, then you shouldn't be comemmorating the 100th anniversary of your pistol, let alone making a buck off of it... generic "1911" model label or not.
Many manufacturers make good-great 1911 STYLE pistols... but they aren't 100% TRUE 1911's. Only COLT'S is.
Some will say the present day Colt is NOTHING like the original... may be true... but seeing how they're the original manufacturer, they can modify it as they please and still call it a 1911. If Colt were nuts, they could designate a revolver a 1911 and because they are the original maker... guess what? In reality (not perception), that revolver is now the present 1911 firearm.
The 1964 Mustang has little resemblance or mechanical similarity to the present day car... yet its still the ONE AND ONLY Mustang, "THE" original Pony Car... no one disputes that! Chevy came along and arguably made a better 'Pony Car', the Camaro... but there's still only one original. Chevy doesn't celebrate the Mustang's anniversary... even though the Mustang began the genre. Ford could take the Crown Victoria, and change its name to Mustang... guess what? The 4 door beheamouth would be the new Mustang in reality (not perception).
If someone built a car, even from scratch, that was nearly or 100% identical to the Mustang... would it be a Mustang???
Yet, many here argue the facts about a Colt being "the only true" 1911... odd.
1911 in reality (not perception) is the designation used by Colt for their firearm (like Ford uses Mustang)... other manufacturers have taken the liberty of using the designation (like Chevy calling the Camaro a Mustang), and 'we' all refer to these pistols as 1911's generically... so it goes to reason that we should all call Taurus double action revolvers by their Smith and Wesson original designations?!?!
This fraud of celebrating Colt's 1911 100th Anniversary by non-Colt manufacturers is just another example of people making bank on someone else's work and heritage. Problem is, is that Colt's been working 100 friggin' years on it.
Sure, they're your kid, and they may even resemble you... but there's no genetic, blood relation... not to mention, you don't even have the same birthday... plus you're seperated by 50+ years.
Just doesn't make sense. How in the HECK can any manufacturer celebrate the 100 year anniversary of someone else's work/creation?! It's nearly a fraud. If you haven't been consistenly producing a 1911 for 100 years, then you shouldn't be comemmorating the 100th anniversary of your pistol, let alone making a buck off of it... generic "1911" model label or not.
Many manufacturers make good-great 1911 STYLE pistols... but they aren't 100% TRUE 1911's. Only COLT'S is.
Some will say the present day Colt is NOTHING like the original... may be true... but seeing how they're the original manufacturer, they can modify it as they please and still call it a 1911. If Colt were nuts, they could designate a revolver a 1911 and because they are the original maker... guess what? In reality (not perception), that revolver is now the present 1911 firearm.
The 1964 Mustang has little resemblance or mechanical similarity to the present day car... yet its still the ONE AND ONLY Mustang, "THE" original Pony Car... no one disputes that! Chevy came along and arguably made a better 'Pony Car', the Camaro... but there's still only one original. Chevy doesn't celebrate the Mustang's anniversary... even though the Mustang began the genre. Ford could take the Crown Victoria, and change its name to Mustang... guess what? The 4 door beheamouth would be the new Mustang in reality (not perception).
If someone built a car, even from scratch, that was nearly or 100% identical to the Mustang... would it be a Mustang???
Yet, many here argue the facts about a Colt being "the only true" 1911... odd.
1911 in reality (not perception) is the designation used by Colt for their firearm (like Ford uses Mustang)... other manufacturers have taken the liberty of using the designation (like Chevy calling the Camaro a Mustang), and 'we' all refer to these pistols as 1911's generically... so it goes to reason that we should all call Taurus double action revolvers by their Smith and Wesson original designations?!?!
This fraud of celebrating Colt's 1911 100th Anniversary by non-Colt manufacturers is just another example of people making bank on someone else's work and heritage. Problem is, is that Colt's been working 100 friggin' years on it.
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OrangePwrx9
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Ohfercryinoutloud. After that post, I'm going to celebrate by buying a Ruger P345.
We'll talk Colt when they bring back the Python.
We'll talk Colt when they bring back the Python.
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Not that I am buying a centennial model, but the US military designated the design of the pistol as the 1911. There weren't enough produced by Colt, so the military solicited other manufacturers, including its own armory, to produce, guess what, the 1911 pistol.
I'd much rather have a splendid example (yeah right) of a North American Arms 1911 than a 1918 Colt...yep more $$$ value in it. Because it is a rare variation of ... the 1911 pistol.
Using the Colt only analogy, if anyone has any amount of money in non-Winchester M1 carbines or non-Springfield Armory Garands...guess what, you have a clone copy, not the real McCoy. And those 1911 collectors...tell them their Singer is a low value undesirable copy.
You can slice it anyway you... if it is a 1911 pattern pistol...it is a 1911. And if left to Colt management history it would still be a 1925 A1 design if custom smiths, Springfield Armory of Illinois and Kimber didn't step up and take the big steps to putting modern features into the old warhorse. Oops, sorry, it would have the Series 80 firing pin safety in it.
So if SA, Kimber, the Baer tier guns want to make a commerative, so be it. The market will determine what they will sell for and be worth down the road.
I'd much rather have a splendid example (yeah right) of a North American Arms 1911 than a 1918 Colt...yep more $$$ value in it. Because it is a rare variation of ... the 1911 pistol.
Using the Colt only analogy, if anyone has any amount of money in non-Winchester M1 carbines or non-Springfield Armory Garands...guess what, you have a clone copy, not the real McCoy. And those 1911 collectors...tell them their Singer is a low value undesirable copy.
You can slice it anyway you... if it is a 1911 pattern pistol...it is a 1911. And if left to Colt management history it would still be a 1925 A1 design if custom smiths, Springfield Armory of Illinois and Kimber didn't step up and take the big steps to putting modern features into the old warhorse. Oops, sorry, it would have the Series 80 firing pin safety in it.
So if SA, Kimber, the Baer tier guns want to make a commerative, so be it. The market will determine what they will sell for and be worth down the road.
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I would consider buying one of the lesser expensive Colt's if the price was right simply because I missed the O1911 and O1918. I haven't heard any pricing, but I'm guessing it will be too much just for adding the additional roll mark.
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Yes and no. A 1911 is a 1911 but for the sake of collecting a Kimber/Para/Springfield/etc. is not a Colt. We're not talking daily shooters here..we're talking big bucks collectibles. As another auto analogy, collectors will spend a fortune on an original AC Cobra whereas a modern kit car will sell for a fraction of that. People want the original, not the copy. Personally, I'd be happy with the copy and bank the difference but I understand and appreciate the serious collector.
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