Which compact pocket auto?
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Dgreno
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Although I want an LCP, I had to vote keltec at this point in time. The LCP is a better feel but the keltec has such a good backing and a tried and trusted action. The LCP has not been around long enough for me to trust it fully. I personally would rather own he ruger for the better ergonomics, name, and design (i know, they are almost twins, but there are differences). I have yet to talk to a true keltec owner who does not love it.
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I'd go for a major caliber like a 38/357 snubbie or Kahr 9/40/45.
Dgreno
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The op is asking about .380's. If thats what he wants, your choice does not matter. Just some food for thought...
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If I had to pick one, I'd go with the keltec because I feel like its the same gun and ruger is doing some of the same things keltec did earlier in the days of the p3at before they discovered problems with them and changed a few things.
I'd go with Kel tec. Customer service is great. THey will fix anything that might happen to the pistol. I just sent mine in a few months ago and they practically sent me a new pistol free of cost!!! Works like a dream now. (I had bought it second hand and was in all likely hood, abused by the previous owner) My wife carries this little pistol and I use it occasionally as well. As far as the Ruger goes, I gotta really think twice about buying something from a company that basically ripped off another company's design.
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KT's have had the time to de-bug it. untill ruger is time proven i vote KT.
drop a KT....they float like a butterfly
drop a KT....they float like a butterfly
redraidermgr
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Hey Ronstar,
My wife and I were just looking at this exact pair the other day for her a CCW pistol. The main difference between the two is that the Ruger has a slide lock where the Keltec doesnt. One other thing that was told me at my small local shop was that Ruger is selling the LCPs so fast that they arent offereng extra mags until the supply for the pistol slows down enough to allow them to mass produce them easier.
My wife ended up going with a Beretta Tomcat but it was a close run between these two. She went with the Tomcat because of the steel construction, it was the only one that didnt feel like a cheap plastic toy in her hands.
As for the durability of these two, I dont know. We looked at them for a few minutes and talked with the shop clerk who was fairly knowledgeable but ended up going with a gun that is made from metal because of the durability issue. If you dont mind going down to a 32 you might look into the Beretta. It is a nice gun so far. My wife loves it.
My wife and I were just looking at this exact pair the other day for her a CCW pistol. The main difference between the two is that the Ruger has a slide lock where the Keltec doesnt. One other thing that was told me at my small local shop was that Ruger is selling the LCPs so fast that they arent offereng extra mags until the supply for the pistol slows down enough to allow them to mass produce them easier.
My wife ended up going with a Beretta Tomcat but it was a close run between these two. She went with the Tomcat because of the steel construction, it was the only one that didnt feel like a cheap plastic toy in her hands.
As for the durability of these two, I dont know. We looked at them for a few minutes and talked with the shop clerk who was fairly knowledgeable but ended up going with a gun that is made from metal because of the durability issue. If you dont mind going down to a 32 you might look into the Beretta. It is a nice gun so far. My wife loves it.
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The ruger and Kel-tec are almost the exact same size, to me it really comes down to preference. If you want a slide lock and no extra mags you can go with the ruger or the tried and true kel-tec. I am a huge ruger fan but would probably go with the kel-tec atleast till extra mags are available for the ruger.
The beretta is .2 inches shorter and just slightly wider than the ruger and kel-tec. All three are comprable to the same size and are all easily concealed.
The beretta is not a hammerless pistol though. It does have a manual safety and can be carried cocked and locked if you have to. It has a flip up barell so that a round can be chambered immediately because until the pistol has been fired a couple hundred times the slide is very stiff, I didnt have much problem with it but my wife did. most guys wont have a problem working the slide even in a hurry.
The beretta is .2 inches shorter and just slightly wider than the ruger and kel-tec. All three are comprable to the same size and are all easily concealed.
The beretta is not a hammerless pistol though. It does have a manual safety and can be carried cocked and locked if you have to. It has a flip up barell so that a round can be chambered immediately because until the pistol has been fired a couple hundred times the slide is very stiff, I didnt have much problem with it but my wife did. most guys wont have a problem working the slide even in a hurry.
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Then he should have stated that he was just looking at .380 Auto pistols and not have had an option for "other" and perhaps stated something to the effect of "I'm looking for .380 Auto only". Chew on that for a while.
I don't think a snubbie or even a Kahr is as small as the little .380s, but still fits the bill for pocket carry.
Since my opinion is not welcomed, I'm out.
redraidermgr
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Look around and try to get all three side by side at a gun shop or gun rental for comparrison so that you know what you are getting. Thats the way my wife and I did it. She loved the extra weight to the beretta and the solid construction of it.
The beretta isnt for everyone and if you are looking for a DAO pistol it might not be for you unless you dont mind carrying it cocked and locked or with a round in the chamber and the hammer down.
The beretta isnt for everyone and if you are looking for a DAO pistol it might not be for you unless you dont mind carrying it cocked and locked or with a round in the chamber and the hammer down.
If you feel you must buy a Kel-Tec, at least get one of their 9mm's. 
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