Which Dragoon
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Hoof Hearted
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Whitneyville and 1st model have oval stop notches on the cylinder.
Whineyville has the Walker grip.
1st and second have the Dragoon (square back) trigger guard.
3rd has the round trigger guard.
Whineyville has the Walker grip.
1st and second have the Dragoon (square back) trigger guard.
3rd has the round trigger guard.
Norton Commando
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The same question was asked about two weeks or so ago and alot of excellent information was shared. I'll try to find the thread and post the link.
Hoof Hearted
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The Walker/Whitneyville is more trumpet shaped at the bottom (an evolution from patterson). The frame is actually different where the wood meets up to it. The Walker style is semi circular at the frame and the Dragoon (1st, 2nd and 3rd) is squre lkie late Colts.
The most noticeable difference between the Dragoon series and Walker is that the cylinder was shortened because too many (maybe most) of the Walkers burst cylinders because the powder charge was more then the steel of that day could safely hold. This isn't a problem today, but lifting and shooting a Walker is to say the least, a chore. But if you want the biggest, badest Colt ever made the Walker is it.
Hoof Hearted
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Sorry I assumed the OP knew that!
He asked the difference between the Dragoon types not the Dragoon and the Walker.
You can "fit" the Walker cylinder into the Dragoon....if you want the power in the smaller package. I have done it for a number of my customers!
FreddyKruger
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and that would be the second post.
since i already have a Walker, id pick the 3rd model for the differences in grip, trigger guard etc.
http://www.ubertireplicas.com/black_powder-dragonrev.php
since i already have a Walker, id pick the 3rd model for the differences in grip, trigger guard etc.
http://www.ubertireplicas.com/black_powder-dragonrev.php
I would get the 2nd or 3rd model as they have the more modern cylinder stops rather than the oval ones of the Walker that have no lead in. The lockup is going to hold up better with less battering of the edges of the cylinder stop cutouts.
I have two Walkers and the stops get banged up and you can get over rotation after a while. I also have a 3rd Mod Dragoon.
I have two Walkers and the stops get banged up and you can get over rotation after a while. I also have a 3rd Mod Dragoon.
Norton Commando
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I couldn't find the other thread about Dragoons, but I prefer the 3rd model with its conventional cylinder stop feature and rounded trigger guard.
Beauhooligan
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I had a 3rd. Model Dragoon, but sold it, because shooting the ponderous pistol was too much like work. 
Legionnaire
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That was my thinking. After that, I decided on a 2nd because I wanted the square-back trigger guard of the earlier models.Hellgate said:
72coupe
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I prefer the 3rd model because the round trigger guard does not beat up my knuckles so badly.
Fingers McGee
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3rd, cause of the rectangular stops, round triggerguard, and rear sight.
Berkley
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Current standard production Uberti civilian 3d Models (which most sellers carry in stock) don't have the rear sight. You'd have to find one cut for shoulder stock.
Captain*kirk
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The ORIGINAL Dragoons had differences that aren't present in the modern repro's.
In addition to what was previously mentioned, Whitneyville and First Models had no roller on the hammer and had a Vee-shaped mainspring. Some time after the very first run of Seconds, the design change shifted to a single-piece mainspring and roller (wheel) on the hammer. Third models incorporated all of the above, plus the rounded trigger guard. Back then, the third would have been the obvious choice.
Now, with the modern repros incorporating all but the bolt notches and trigger guard, it's a matter of which one you like the looks and feel of.
In addition to what was previously mentioned, Whitneyville and First Models had no roller on the hammer and had a Vee-shaped mainspring. Some time after the very first run of Seconds, the design change shifted to a single-piece mainspring and roller (wheel) on the hammer. Third models incorporated all of the above, plus the rounded trigger guard. Back then, the third would have been the obvious choice.
Now, with the modern repros incorporating all but the bolt notches and trigger guard, it's a matter of which one you like the looks and feel of.
72coupe
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Cowboy you will be happy with it. Since you already have a Walker you know what you are getting yourself into.
I was flipping through the channels on TV a few minutes ago and stopped at a scene in Last Man Standing. In the scene William Sanderson was holding a Dragoon on someone and then shot him for the fun of it.
I was flipping through the channels on TV a few minutes ago and stopped at a scene in Last Man Standing. In the scene William Sanderson was holding a Dragoon on someone and then shot him for the fun of it.
Here's mine. A Franken Dragoon. This is the Whitneyville Dragoon, with a 2nd/3rd Model cylinder fitted. My original cylinder notches were too shallow, and the cylinder stop did not, well, stop the cylinder on two chambers. Made a mess of cylinder notches too. SO, I ordered a later model cylinder and cylinder stop and fitted them to the gun. Just finished it a while ago. Functions flawlessly now.
madcratebuilder
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24 posts and no one has mentioned the difference in the loading lever latch??????
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