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Well after much research and grip fondling I’ve decided to somewhat contradict myself. My main purpose is to get something about 5” height which is minimum for me to have full grip on for ccw. Optic ready was secondary. I just can’t find anything I like better than a gen 5 19 so I’m buying a new one off a guy with night sights for 500. I almost certainly wouldn’t put an optic on it anyways for carrying. I’ll get a full size with optic down the road for range toy.
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