Which of these three in 308 for a post disaster rifle?

Which of these three in 308 for a post disaster rifle?

  • Springfield Armory M21 tactical

    Votes: 27 26.2%
  • Browning Safari in .308

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • FN FNAR w/20" barrel

    Votes: 26 25.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 44.7%

  • Total voters
    103
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Limited to 7.62x51 NATO. And a semi-auto rifle – no bolt action. I carried, qualified with, and cleaned the M16 for 11 years, and I never liked it, so I’m not looking for an AR chambered in 7.62 I know there are other long range cartridges like the 338 Lapua, but I want to stick with 7.62 NATO. If someone wanted a rifle in this caliber to potentially engage targets out to 800 - 900 meters in a post disaster situation, which would be your choice:

Springfield Armory M21 tactical
FN FNAR w/20" barrel
Browning Safari in .308
308 for a post disaster, I voted (other) because, NO semi-auto, bolt action only, less to go wrong.................
 
What was the measure of that? (...) Also how far out have you shot it. It is not always the case that 1.5" at 100 yards means 4.5" at 300 or 13.5" at 900 yards (which BTW might be enough to put you off target). I'm not doubting, I'm just curious and want to be sure we are comparing apples to apples. Also even a consistent 1.5 MOA gun for 10 shot groups isn't anything close to the sub MOA groups of the best AR10 guns

5 shot groups at 100. Seen both rifles do groups like that fairly consistently. To be honest we don't get near as much range time as we'd like, we've been working on load development so we can fix that. We have a 900yd range to work on, and the goal is to be able to place first-round hits on a B-27 silhouette at 800. One more round of testing should finalize a decent load, then we'll start stretching out.

I won't deny that a quality AR-type has more inherent accuracy, anecdotally, but like the OP, as a matter of personal preference neither of us particularly care for AR-types.
 
Get an M-1 Garand in .06 and buy tons of m2 from the CMP. THEN get a little chamber insert and a can of permatex to addapt the M-1 to eat .308 if needed. Round this out with a modern varriable gas screw (like 60 bucks), and you've got one bad a$$ .30 battle rifle that will reach out and touch in 2 calibers, can be moved lawfully across Canadian borders, and is NYC and Cali legal. And as a bonus, can pump lawful and exempt as sportin per ATF real deal M2 AP in .30/06.

And the CMP still has some to sell. Legally and parcatically, the M-1 is still a versitile and formidible weapon. Just my .02. At TEOTWAWKI I'll have that, my AK, and my 500A handy.
 
Way back in 1967 several of us were able to hit man size targets at 600 meters
With issue m-14's. that said I 'd consider a AR first. A New style BAR by FN is a possibility as is the Remington 750. Don't laugh, I've seen Remington 742 and 7400's that under 1.5 MOA in 30-06 hand loads. They are lighter, easier to handle, and more accurate than most military rifles. Not as rugged though.
I don't know much about the FNAR but I have looked at them. To heavy for me too hunt with but maybe just the ticket for the OP.
 
Have you considered Naval gunfire? I am sure if there is a breakdown of society and we can no longer get Bud Light to drink while watching the NFL on television, the New Jersey will immediately put back to sea to provide protection for the Army-Navy game. Your fears have me thinking, I might lay in an extra pack of Fig Newtons......just in case.:D
 
It was a simple request to keep this focused on firearms and not fantasy. The chances of a Mad Max or Book of Eli style event taking place is pretty slim and none. The US is facing many problems right now. Pretty much all of them fall outside of the scope of the mission of THR. And playing cowboys and <insert flavor of the moment fad bad guy or event> is not the mission of THR.
 
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