Which polymer auto?

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All the pistols listed are very good but, I love my Walther P99 with the AS trigger. The ergonomics take some getting used to, but the gun is better than my abilities.
I have only shot a small sample of guns, but I have shot a:
Baby Eagle in 9mm, shot straight, finicky with magazones, but not for me.

Glock 22, shot straight, reliable, did not fit my hand well, and was akward for me.

S/A XD in 9mm pretty much a Glock.

Of course my P99 which I cannot say enough good things about. Too bad you're closer to me we could hit the range and you could try it out.
 
Another vote for the Walther P99 (AS not the QA trigger).
Light, fast, short reset, 2nd strike capability, accurate, great ergos and 16+1.

I own a couple and they are everything that a Glock wishes it was. :p

Oh yeah......chicks dig it...... :D

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My favorite poly-auto is the USP or USPc
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The HK is a good gun but I don't see myself owning one any time soon (well, maybe a P7 someday).

if I were to buy a new polymer gun, I would just save up for the XD .45
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The .45ACP XD is definately a possibility, but not really in the group of pistols I want evaluated right now. The defining characteristic is that the guns on this list are basically non-polymer polymer guns. What I mean by that is these are polymer designs that don't look like polymer designs (the XD, Milennium Pros, 24/7s, and Glocks have that blocky polymer look, these look like they could just as easily be made of some metal). Basically these are FNs, SIGs, S&Ws, etc. that just happen to be made of polymer while the others look like polymer pistols (I guess it is a style thing, but I wanted to break up my list into some kind of groupings).

So... did ya get rid of that P345?
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Not yet, I will be trading it after I try a bit longer to make it reliable. I'd prefer to trade an OK gun that is mostly reliable but with occasional issues than one that in some range trips can't get through a mag without multiple failures.

For some obscure reason (to me) many people don't seem to like Rugers...
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I have nothing wrong with Rugers in general and often find myself recommending them. However, my KP345 is not reliable, and my last range trip showed me that with the problem with the design of the mag disconnect simply not dry firing without a mag myself may not be enough. I wanted to love my KP345- it is a good looking gun that feels great in my hand and is pretty accurate, but it hasn't proven reliable. Also, my first auto was a KP89- it was reliable but felt like a brick and it was horribly inaccurate (it wasn't me either- I often shot rental guns and mine together and did better with the unfamiliar rental). Still, Ruger makes many good guns, I just don't know that I'll be owning any more (maybe a P95, but not this time).

If you are looking at and considering Sigs and Walthers why would you consider a gun like the Taurus?
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Because my experience is that Taurus makes some darned good guns.

My first gun was a Taurus 82 revolver which never gave me any trouble. I used to own a Taurus 605 revolver which never gave me any trouble. I own a Taurus 85CH which hasn't ever given me any trouble and this time I won't stupidly let it get away as with the prior two.

I currently own a Taurus PT140 Milennium Pro which has actually been a better gun than my SIG 226 from a reliability standpoint and it stands up well in other areas. The SIG had some troubles in its first range trip, the Taurus has 750 trouble free rounds, the slight majority of which have been various JHPs. Both are accurate (of course the full-sized SIG is more accurate). Both are very well made and feel good in the hand (the SIG is obviously better quality, but the Taurus is nothing to be ashamed of with very good fit and finish). The SIG used cost about $250 more than the Taurus did new.

Not on your list but I'd check out the CZ-100
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I do like CZs and I have looked at this one before but I think I'll probably wait on this one. I like the Taurus polymers better than this CZ and they are priced about the same. For a CZ I'd prefer to spend a little more and go with something like the PCR.
 
I would never have considered buying a poly-gun until I checked out an XD .45 at FBMG. Now I'm trying to figure out what I can sell to get one.
 
How about a Baby Eagle???

I know it has not been mentioned but I have shot this pistol and it is just great. And not too expensive!
 

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On that list I'd go with the SIG Pro......mine has been flawless. Easily one of the best of it's kind and a great value.
 
If you're looking for light weight, the Glocks are 5 to 6 ounces or more lighter than any other polymer gun on the market. I've visited all of the manufacture websites I can think of, and the other polymer guns all start at around 26 ounces, whereas Glocks are almost all 20 to 22 ounces.
 
I'm not a big fan of polymer pistols in general. I've owned Glocks and HKs but have since sold them all.
The new HK45 is interesting and solves the horrible ergonomics of the USP and I'll look into it when it becomes available. But for now, I plan to buy a M&P in 9mm. I think S&W hit a home run with the M&P and it's only a matter of time before the marketplace realizes that.
 
The new HK45 is interesting and solves the horrible ergonomics of the USP
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What don't you like about the ergos? I love the USP ergonomics. IMO it has the best ergos for me of any polymer pistol I've held thus far (similar, IMO, to the P2000). The only thing that might be better in terms of ergonomics is my CZ 75.
 
The USP feels about as comfortable as a brick in my hand. The P2000 is much better.
 
The other day I had a chance to handle a FNP-9M. It was reasonably slim and I LOVED the trigger. It had a short and SMOOOOOOTH double action trigger. I had my heart set on something else but I think I've been seduced by the FN.
 
Well, I can only comment on what I've fired and held, so here are my quick bits:

The SW M&P felt very nice in the hands. Very simple, basic, with a nice steady trigger pull. I could easily see myself purchasing one of these. Ergonomics were far superior to polymers such as the XD and Glocks.

When it comes to the Walther P99 vs. the SW SW99, I'd go with the P99. Yes, I'm biased cause I own it. But it really is such an underrated firearm. Shoots great (and I'm only an intermediate shooter), ergonomics are PERFECT for me, and it offers a true SA/DA trigger in their Anti-Stress variant, which some others in your list don't. When it comes to the SW99, it's a shame as their SA/DA version isn't being produced anymore (correct me if I'm wrong.) That leaves used versions, maybe a few NIB, and a whole lotta SW990's which are DAO. Still a great firearm. Frame comes direct from Germany via Walther, and slide/barrel from S&W. Melonite coating is certainly a plus. I'd still choose the Walther over the S&W though. I just wish Walther would make their's in a dang .45 like S&W :)

+1 for the P99. If it fits your hands, you will NOT be dissatisfied with your purchase. However, if it helps, my buddy owns a Springfield XD 5" in .45, and he doesn't like my P99, as he is about 6"3' and has pretty big hands. It doesn't seem geared to large hands.

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On that note, +1 to the XD series as well. I feel they outrank Glock just a bit. Grips are better, and just overall handles better to me. As said above, my buddies XD .45ACP is fantastic. I was very very impressed with it. Very light felt recoil with the .45. He got his with the stainless steel slide, and it sure looks pretty.
 
Walter is the one

I have in my collection the Walther P99 A/S, Glock 23, Glock 33, Browning Pro-40, XD 9, 40 and 45. I have shot the HK P2000 and sold a Taurus 24-7 and Millienium PT145. Of these, the best it the Walther. It is dead on accurate, reliable, comfortable and handsome. The Browning Pro-40 is also a very nice gun and I like my Glocks and all the XD's, but I think you would be well served with the P99. The HK has a great reputation, but it is over priced and no more reliable than the others. The 24/7 had a terrible trigger. (It was the old non-pro model). Same with the PT145.
 
Of those on the list, P99. Mine's a .40SW. The only real issue I ever had with mine was a concern that the cases weren't supported, although this is an issue in a many pistols, an often designed intentionally the facilitate near-perfect feeding. An armorer I knew was concerned that there was some "burnback" on my spents. I sent it in to Walther customer support, care of SW, and they replaced my barrel for free. The new one is a little better, not significantly, but I don't worry about the integrity of my brass a whole lot since I don't reload. My understanding is that Glocks are designed the same way though, and no one really complains about them. I also had the mags come apart one me a couple times, the 10-rounders, the butt plates were either poorly designed or manufactured with inferior plastic. SW sent me out another handful of them at their expense, and the new ones have held up fine. Very good customer care if you ask me. Other than that, it's a really solid weapon. Everyone's getting into polymers now, but except for the gold-standard USP and ubiquitous Glock, this is one of the few I'd look very closely at if I wasn't just looking to build a collection. A friend of mine had a Sig Pro that shot pretty nice, but when you're reputations in more classic looking all-metal guns like Sig, Kimber and Beretta, I sort of wince when I see the sci-fi stuff they're putting out now. I should give them a chance, I know, but I just liked their existing product lines so much more than this new stuff I'm seeing.
 
I'm going to throw in the Ruger P95 if it hasn't been mentioned. 27 ounces, has a safety, and I'm getting one NIB tomorrow at a local shop for $319 for the blue model. Or I might get the stainless at $369. Cheaper than a Taurus, and I've never heard anything bad about Rugers.
 
I'm going to nominate the Steyr too, having put a 100 or so rounds through a collegues, it's next on my "to buy" list. Ergo's are excellent, and the very low boreline makes quick shooting a joy, very similar to a P7. Trigger is ok, not brilliant, a bit better than my Glocks, but very usable. Only downside is lack of add on bits, should you be into doing that sort of thing.....and it does look very poly-ish...How about a Kimber BP10 ?
 
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