Which primers do you like? And not so much.

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tominboise said:
I have noticed it's easier to clean the primer pocket when using CCI vs Winchester primers, but no big deal.
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Really? I wonder why?
About 999 out of 1,000 primers I've used over the years have been CCI, and the other .1 percent were either Winchester or Federal. So, I probably haven't noticed primer pockets being easier to clean when using CCI primers - not saying they're not, just saying I haven't noticed it. ;)
 
.308 Norma said:
Really? I wonder why?
About 999 out of 1,000 primers I've used over the years have been CCI, and the other .1 percent were either Winchester or Federal. So, I probably haven't noticed primer pockets being easier to clean when using CCI primers - not saying they're not, just saying I haven't noticed it. ;)
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Eh, my bad. Federal not Win. Thx Here's four that are off and the center is correct. Then examples of what they smash like and what they should look like primers.jpg primers 2.jpg . primers 4.png Note that the three odd balls have a flat surface or no rounded edge. And there is an edge that has a shaved or sliver that changes the diameter. Some of these are so bad that I just throw the whole thing away. These will work and are for plinking. I'd never use this in a competition or hunt.
 
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gun'sRgood said:
Eh, my bad. Federal not Win. Thx Here's four that are off and the center is correct. Then examples of what they smash like and what they should look like
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I think you responded to the wrong post, gun'sRgood. I was asking tominboise why primer pockets using CCI primers are easier to clean than primer pockets using Winchester primers. :)
 
gun'sRgood said:
Eh, my bad. Federal not Win. Thx Here's four that are off and the center is correct. Then examples of what they smash like and what they should look likeView attachment 1105922 View attachment 1105923 . View attachment 1105921 Note that the three odd balls have a flat surface or no rounded edge. And there is an edge that has a shaved or sliver that changes the diameter. Some of these are so bad that I just throw the whole thing away. These will work and are for plinking. I'd never use this in a competition or hunt.
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That's Remington packaging you're showing. Do you mean Remington primers
 
.308 Norma said:
Really? I wonder why?
About 999 out of 1,000 primers I've used over the years have been CCI, and the other .1 percent were either Winchester or Federal. So, I probably haven't noticed primer pockets being easier to clean when using CCI primers - not saying they're not, just saying I haven't noticed it. ;)
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I have no idea, just something I have noticed over the last number of years reloading. Doesn't seem to affect the performance either way and most people probably don't clean the pocket anyway.
 
gun'sRgood said:
Eh, my bad. Federal not Win. Thx Here's four that are off and the center is correct. Then examples of what they smash like and what they should look likeView attachment 1105922 View attachment 1105923 . View attachment 1105921 Note that the three odd balls have a flat surface or no rounded edge. And there is an edge that has a shaved or sliver that changes the diameter. Some of these are so bad that I just throw the whole thing away. These will work and are for plinking. I'd never use this in a competition or hunt.
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I have never had to hit them that hard, if there was a little dimple in the middle I would say over pressure. Personally I really don't like that. I don't want to have to put that much pressure on them.

I have had some that did not want to seat, marked it up to me being lazy and not cleaning the pocket. (more on that later) If I had a run like that full stop and what is going on. Into the water bucket with those for me.
 
I have been reloading, I am guessing 15 years now. In the past it was all CCI, today like most people it is whatever I can lay fingers on. I have not had issues with any of them.

I generally will not clean the pocket on hand gun cartridges every loading, every other maybe if it looks crusty in there. Rifles I clean every time. I have never had an issue in loading rifle cartridges, but the hand guns yup, here and there, and I mark it up to dirty pockets.

With everything being hard to find I am cleaning everything now, my time is more easy to find then components.
 
.308 Norma said:
I think you responded to the wrong post, gun'sRgood. I was asking tominboise why primer pockets using CCI primers are easier to clean than primer pockets using Winchester primers. :)
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Yeah. OK but this is my post. How about a PM to tominboise?
9mmepiphany said:
It looks like what you're referring to is a result of you not having swaged the crimped primer pockets before trying to prime the cases
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OK? News to me and that's why I'm here. Please elaborate. Thx.
 
Yep, crimped primer pockets (where primers are crimped into the pocket to keep them there no matter what, usually to keep them there in full auto fire).

Those crimped primer pockets need to be swaged or reamed to remove the leftover crimp from where we pushed the primer out. If we don't, it's hard to re-prime because the leftover crimp interferes and can damage the primer going in.

I bet those were hard to prime.....

Dillon Super Swage

RCBS Military Crimp Remover

Several methods explained, a bit long

 
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9mmepiphany said:
You'll have a ask a more specific question.

Are you unfamiliar with crimped primer pockets?
or
Are you unfamiliar with the need to swag primer pockets?
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Yep & yep. BTW, those pic's or the ones I think are the problem, well they also get stuck in the pick up tubes, in the primer tube on the XL 650 and they will shave off bits. If you look close you can sorta see the extra material on the primers. The "heads" of these are flat or they do not have a radiused edge. I believe your sage advice on an enhanced methodology and thank you for the information.
 
Walkalong said:
Yep, crimped primer pockets (where primers are crimped into the pocket to keep them there no matter what, usually to keep them there in full auto fire).

Those crimped primer pockets need to be swaged or reamed to remove the leftover crimp from where we pushed the primer out. If we don't, it's hard to re-prime because the leftover crimp interferes and can damage the primer going in.

I bet those were hard to prime.....

Dillon Super Swage

RCBS Military Crimp Remover

Several methods explained, a bit long

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Hey, Thanks! Always great to learn. Since you mentioned full auto i like to go off topic a bit and ask if crimping the bullet is wise for full auto?
 
The military tends to use heavy neck tension and a tar sealant on the case mouth to hold bullets from moving. Not many of us are shooting full auto. And a crimp may or may not help, depending on what kind, the bullet, and the execution of said crimp.
 
Thanks guys. I changed primers as there are certainly QC issues with the Federal. Pockets are not. Careful measurements of these show the difference. They getting stuck in tubes, Cups are malformed, shavings are present from them being stamped are all readily evident. I'll try hand seating them and then dispose of them. Any of the cases needing a swage job has the same issues. On the other hand, these, in question, have the same issue in any case.
 
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