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I need a scope for my 700 .308.

Here are the scopes I have it narrowed down to. I'd like to hear from folks w/experience w/these models as to why one would be better than the others.

Right now, the rifle will just be for paper punshing at 100 yds. I'll be doing 200-300 yds when I find a range closer so I want the scope to be good for that with ease. I'd prefer to not have it maxed out at 300 though. ;) At this time, I do not hunt, but would like to eventually.

Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40
Leupold VX-I 3-9x40
Leupold VX-II 3-9x40
Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40
Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40
Super Sniper 10x42
Nikon Monarch 3-12x42
 
All have good rep. but that just what I hear.

I haven't used them though, I might be ordering a Super Sniper 10x42mm in the future.
 
For your application I would opt for the Nikon 3x12 but they are all very capable scopes for your use.
 
I've got the prostaff in 3-9x40 and love it. It's clear, solid, and repeatable. I know it can't be beat for the 130$ I paid for it new. I know it isn't on the list, but a burris fullfield II should be considered. Those are great scopes for the money and the warranty is awesome.
 
I might prefer to pay some extra now and go 50 with higher magnification.

With a 308....you'd be going much farther than 100 real soon would be nice to have bigger scope with more mag. from the get go rather than wishing you had bigger.
 
If you read some of my other posts on my VX-I you can see I've had bad luck with it. Had to send it in twice to Leupold for repair in 2 and a half years of owning it. It also loses zero easily if you bump it. It's clear enough but I can't tell that it's any clearer than the $30 Tasco from Wally World I also have. A couple buddies looked and said the Tasco looked clearer to them. Overall, I'm just not pleased with it and honestly would way rather have the $30 Tasco over the Leupould which cost me $225 a few years back. I see them for a lot more than that now.


One I'd add to your list is the Burris Fullfield II. It's probably my favorite scope I've used. Super clear. I was amazed at the clarity when looking through it. I've not had it for a full year yet so can't comment on how it will last but so far it seems good. It is super clear like I said, seems to do pretty good at holding zero when getting bumped from what little I've seen, I really like the crosshairs in it. Plus it was only $200 on clearance from Dicks with a Garmin eTrex GPS. This is probably my favorite scope I've used.

A Simmons Deerfield would be 2nd. It just has taken a major beating and held up well and holds zero well. Not quite as clear imo as the Burris but it's clear enough and has like I said taken a huge beating. Been dropped, banged around, etc and still holds zero. The only time I've had it lose zero was when I had another gun hit the scope pretty hard. It shot about a foot high. However, I also switched to a higher velocity ammo so I'm not sure if it was the ammo or if it lost zero. It's on a .22 so doesn't have a lot of recoil but it has taken it's fair share of abuse. This thing is probably 4-5 years old.
Out of what I've had.
I'd put the Burris as my favorite with the Simmons a close second.
I'd put the Tasco 3rd and the Leupold far behind in last. It's the only one I've had to send back at all much less twice.

The Tasco I bought as a cheap scope to get me by and as much as I've looked for something wrong with it I've not found it. I usually find that if you go into something looking for it to be bad it usually will be. However, this wasn't the case here. It's really surprised me and been a great scope for only $30 and it's pretty clear too. I'm not sure how it will be in 10 years but so far in the year to year and a half it seems good.

I just put the Simmons before it in my ratings as like I said it's held up to some abuse and I've had it longer so been able to test it longer.

I would not buy the Leupold again. I was greatly let down. After getting it back from them the 2nd time I put it on my new muzzle loader but haven't sighted it in to see how it does now. So can't comment on it now.
 
If all you intend to use it for is paper (for now) the Super Sniper 10x42 would be hard to beat. A big plus to them is resale value. It is common for used ones to sell within 50 bucks of what new ones currently cost. You will be hard press for any of the others to hold on to there value like that.... They also have enough internal adjustment (120 moa) to get you out to 1000 yards and beyond, should you ever decide you would like too. The adjustments are repeatable, meaning that if you zero at one hundred and zero the knobs you can dial in your other ranges (200,300, etc) and come back to your 100 yard zero with out worry of being off.

That would get my first pick, now if you want to take it hunting and hunt in a area that is not "Wide Open Spaces" your going to want something a little less powerful or at leat an adjustable power.

In that case I would look at the Nikon Monarch 3-12x42 or one you have not listed, the 4.5-14 Nikon buckmaster. The buckmaster has 50 moa and the monarch has 60 moa of internal adjustment. Both will take you to at least 600yards with out using a base with moa built into it.
 
in no particular order the vx-2, nikon monarch and bushnell 4200 would be the only scopes i would consider... the leupold would be my first choice, but there aren't any flies on the other two.

the elite 3200 is a good scope but i think it would come up short in this application, especially since you mention hunting is a possibility.

the vx-1 and pro-staff wouldn't be among my considerations.

never tried a super sniper, doubt i ever will, but i think a fixed-10 on a sporter rifle just doesn't work...
 
I guess I'd look again at the new Fullfield2, 30mm diameter tube, Burris scopes. They really are quite clear.

I know it isn't on your list. I'd shy away from the enormous objective lenses, as they only serve to lift the scope higher on your rifle making it more awkward to shoot, when you are using a 1" tube diameter.

A whole lot more light is transmitted with 30mm scopes, so you can use a standard 40 - 42 mm objective.
 
Everything on your list will meet your current needs. However, the Supersniper will not be the best choice for hunting later.

I'll try to look it up, but a review I read a few weeks ago by Snipersparadise, Snipershide, or Snipercentral (I can't remember which) gave the SS very good reviews, but stated that it did dim quickly in failing light.

That won't make it the optimal choice for anyone who hunts at dusk and dawn.

That said, I may eventually put a SS on one of my rifles that I don't hunt with.


-- John
 
I don't have a Super Sniper or Prostaff but own or have owned the other brands. Of the ones you mention the Monarch and 4200 are the highest quality glass, and I would personally go for the slightly higher power of the Monarch. Another option in case you are interested is the Burris FFII in 4.5-14, I use one of these on a .300 Winnie.
 
I have both the elite series bushnells and the buckmaster nikons. Both great scopes.. Clear, Hold zero and have had no problems yet

just bought this one .. good service, fast ship and killer price

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/bushnell_scopes/bushnell-426245T.html



EDIT:::: After the post right after mine.. He is right.. I also have a Burris fullfield II and it is a fantastic scope.. Super clear.. the BDC is nice and is very durable..
 
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My choice would be a Burris Fullfield II with the drop compensating recticle. I practically stole one brand new on Ebay for about $130. I use this on my long range elk rifle.
 
Leupold and Nikon experience here. They're good scopes at low prices. You can find deals on ebay if you have the patience. My dad just acquired a NIB VX-I for $160+12shipping, which is a price you won't find anywhere for that scope. The ebay seller is roxcut.

$172 (delivered) for a Leupold VX-I makes me wonder what the seller's cost actually is.:scrutiny:
 
$172 (delivered) for a Leupold VX-I makes me wonder what the seller's cost actually is

Not to knock your father's new scope but the VX-I's offer ho-hum features for the price. The warranty is good though. The Nikons, Bushnells, and Sightron will give you the most bang for the buck. They are not made in America though the Bushnell Elites and Sightrons are made in Japan. As far as Leupold goes the VX-3 line is where they start to get priced accordingly. Of course all IMO.
 
the monarch is the best of the bunch here.

I actually like 4200 Elites a bit better because of the Rainguard coating. The Monarchs and 4200's optically are pretty much equal and interchangeable though IMO.
 
Personally, I'd get a 4x fixed power scope. 300 yards max is irons range, and if you ever go hunting with it you'll appreciate the field of view it gives you. I have a Remington 700 MTN in .30-06 wearing a Zeiss Conquest MC 4x32 that I've been more than happy with.

http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/zeiss.pl?page=521405

I have a 10x SS on a Savage 10FP, and wouldn't consider it for hunting in Wisconsin. YMMV. The only adjustable magnification optics I have are on benchrest-type rifles.
 
How does the Nikon Buckmasters 4.5-14x40SF compare to the SS 10x42?
 
I have the Buckmasters 4.5x14 with mildot reticle on my sps tactical and am really happy with it.
 
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