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Which state will go Vermont Carry next? (no permit req'd) -- 2006 wrap-up

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  1. MatthewVanitas

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    I've posted this thread before, but I think this one is worth starting a new thread for anually.

    Vermont has always been "Vermont Carry", no permit required to carry concealed, provided you weren't causing any trouble.

    Alaska joined the club a couple years back.

    In the last thread like this, about a year ago, there were rumors that Montana, Utah, Dakota, and New Hampshire were mulling such a move.

    Any updates from denizens of those states? Any local .org working on the issue that THR members nationwide should donate $5 to?

    -MV
     
  2. The-Fly

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    i'm hearing rumbles that Wyoming is thinking of doing Vermont carry.
     
  3. Warren

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    Illinois?
     
  4. Fly320s

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    I don't know much about Wyoming's laws, but i think that NH will be next.

    We already have permit-less carry and open carry, with exceptions. The application process is very simple and the fee is only $10, so I would guess that the state isn't getting revenue from the permits.

    Live Free or Die.
     
  5. cosine

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    I wish it would be Wisconsin, but an ice cube probably has a better chance of staying frozen in hell than permitless carry becoming legally permitted here. :mad:
     
  6. zahc

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    Montana has quasi-vermont carry as it is. It's only a small step away from VC.
     
  7. Libertylover

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    Fly 320, if you think NH is next, think again. Lynch vetoed the self defense bill, and there weren't enough votes to force it on him. If you think our new Democrat masters in the NH House and Senate will allow the plebes to carry arms without some form of government permission, you're seriously wrong.

    I would actually not be very surprised to see carry laws here become MORE restrictive, or at the very least more expensive.
     
  8. Hutch

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    CCW permit fees are a source of 'unearmarked' revenue for county sheriffs in AL. I wouldn't expect AL to go to "Vermont" laws for that very reason. Even tho' we're a "May Issue" state, I don't know of ANYONE who's ever been turned down, and there's no training requirement.
     
  9. Soybomb

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    The only way anyone will be carrying in Illinois anytime soon is certainly without a permit. :neener:
     
  10. Kingson

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    Massachusetts. Now that we got a Dem for Gov and a Dem majority in the House and Senate there bound to vote for Vermont style carry. Huhhhh..it's time to wake up...but I was having such a nice dream that MA doesn't suck
     
  11. cbsbyte

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    Personaly, I believe that guns laws in most states are going to become regressive. States will probably make it more restrictive to get a CCW, than to loosen the laws.
     
  12. ZeSpectre

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    Well there's a group dogging the new mayor elect of DC about bringing CCW into DC.

    Yeah, like that one is going to go ANYWHERE :banghead:
     
  13. Spreadfire Arms

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    if that happened you'd probably see the crime rate there decrease too.
     
  14. Mousegun

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    New Jersey :) :barf:
     
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    I wish Florida would go this route. But I guess Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and Orange County (Orlando) are too big of a majority.
     
  16. Standing Wolf

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    Colorado. Now that we have a representative of the Democratic (sic) party in the governor's mansion and a majority of representatives of he Democratic (sic) party in the legislator, our right to keep and bear arms will be restored in full.

    You doubt me? Why, just check all the threads about representatives of the Democratic (sic) party who support the Second Amendment!
     
  17. TallPine

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    There was a bill to do such a thing in the last session of the Montana House of Representatives, but it died somewhere along the way :(

    I don't know if it will come up again in 2007, but the Republicans did squeak a majority of the House this time. I asked my state senator about it a few months ago (in person at a local forum) and he had not even heard of the previous bill.

    zahc is right - we already have "Vermont Carry" in about 98% of Montana (basically anywhere outside city limits). Actually, I think one could justify legal CCW without a permit while "hiking... or other outdoor activity" in a city park, as the exceptions are all listed with or (not and) ;)

    Also carry in fanny pack or purse, etc should also be currently legal, since they are not "clothing"
     
  18. Kali Endgame

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    Any mention of California getting added to that list? (tongue wedged firmly in cheek)
     
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  20. Stickjockey

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    Oregon got rid of Ginny Burdick, so I guess it's a start.:rolleyes:
     
  21. Manedwolf

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    Well. At least there's an awful lot of Mexican carry there, especially in Boston. All illegal, usually gangbangers, but it's "carry", right? :uhoh:
     
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    A guy can dream...cant he?
     
  23. Zedicus

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    Heard Rumors of VC style Carry for Idaho, as well as a Castle Doctrine, but have yet to see anything.
     
  24. MatthewVanitas

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    Does anyone think that an expansion of VC would be extremely important for the RKBA cause, or just icing on the cake in already-permissive Shall Issue states?

    -MV
     
  25. mindwip

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    I think if more states go VC carry. And they dont have poeple shooting each other 24/7. Then other states will have a harder time saying they need more gun control, while there neighboring states have less gun laws.
     
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