Who had a reloading mentor and I’m looking for one local

Well I went back through this processed 200 cases and organized them in lots. R-P’s,Geco, Winchester, etc. it’s amazing the difference in the cases! Different diameters of the rim and stuff like that. I thought “brass is brass” they should all be the same…. NO sir! Thx Geodudeflorida
This is a good exercise for your first complete cycle. One of the things you can watch is how diffrent cases seat to diffrent oal based on neck tension. Rp is my least favorite pistol brass and my most favorite rifle brass for a good while. You will develop a preference over time I'm sure...
 
Well I went back through this processed 200 cases and organized them in lots. R-P’s,Geco, Winchester, etc. it’s amazing the difference in the cases! Different diameters of the rim and stuff like that. I thought “brass is brass” they should all be the same…. NO sir! Thx Geodudeflorida

That was one of the things I was going to cover. It's easier to demonstrate rather than explain it over the forum... but, obviously you can see the difference. As both John and Walk mention, the real issue is crimp and brass thickness... in handgun brass. I've had brass so thin, the bullet pushed into the case with thumb pressure... in a sized case.
 
Wow. That’s crazy so given these 200 example cases maybe there’s 5-10 that might go in trash?
That's the game in range pickups. Free brass means very high scrutiny, tossing anything suspect. In short order you will have piles of brass, for trade and in your stash. I pickup almost everything except 9mm. 380 has a surprising demand and a bag of 1000 cleaned is good trade fodder for things like 38 and 45 to grow your stash...
 
Wow. That’s crazy so given these 200 example cases maybe there’s 5-10 that might go in trash?
Maybe, maybe not. Could be more, or could be none. That's why careful inspection is needed when starting out. After awhile you'll know what to look for and should usually spot it fairly easy. Occasionally a bad piece may slip through, but good practices will all but eliminate that.

chris
 
Maybe, maybe not. Could be more, or could be none. That's why careful inspection is needed when starting out. After awhile you'll know what to look for and should usually spot it fairly easy. Occasionally a bad piece may slip through, but good practices will all but eliminate that.

chris

Correct. The real tell will be when you start seating bullets... that's one of the reasons I like a smaller press for cartridge assembly, less leverage allows you to feel for things like bullet seat and crimp. After a while you will get to know 'your' brass, and it's characteristics. Gus, your hand press will magnify the differences in your brass... you've already seen it.

Slightly off topic... brass differences are one of the reasons why I don't scrounge for range brass, with rare exception. I want all of my brass to be the same, and preferably... my own brass, and, yes, there is some OCD in there. Back Home, Years Ago... back in the 1900's, when you could just order 1000 cases of whatever flavor cartridge and headstamp brass you wanted, that's how I would source my brass. In fact, I'm still using a large quantity of .41MAG RP brass I bought as a single 1000cs lot back around 1992, and the same with my .45ACP and .45 Colt brass.
 
One thing to watch for with range brass is brass that is worn out. I've heard other members say something to the effect of "When I go to a place that I know I won't be able to recover the brass, I use brass that's on its last firing/ready to split." That probably won't become an issue with 38 special, but if/when you get into rifle calibers, you'll need to be a lot more choosy.
 
Well I went to charlie98’s and spent 3-4 hours SOAKING up years of expirience! It was awesome to meet you Dennis and I had a ball. Thank you so much. We loaded ten 38 wadcutters together on his equipment and I loaded 10 on my equipment. The hand pressed works great, I do want a single stage though. We just used the rcbs 505 and a trickler to get us 3.7gr of w231 and a Coal of 1.120 using Berry’s 148 DEWC’s. I wanted to go shoot these tonight but ran out of time. I’m hooked and reeled in! Haha. Thanks to everyone here for all your help
 

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Well I went to charlie98’s and spent 3-4 hours SOAKING up years of expirience! It was awesome to meet you Dennis and I had a ball. Thank you so much. We loaded ten 38 wadcutters together on his equipment and I loaded 10 on my equipment. The hand pressed works great, I do want a single stage though. We just used the rcbs 505 and a trickler to get us 3.7gr of w231 and a Coal of 1.120 using Berry’s 148 DEWC’s. I wanted to go shoot these tonight but ran out of time. I’m hooked and reeled in! Haha. Thanks to everyone here for all your help
A mentor is not a single experence. Use the knowledge and reach back when new situations happen or troubleshooting a problem. Hell i talk to him a lot to bounce ideas...
 
We just used the rcbs 505 and a trickler to get us 3.7gr of w231 and a Coal of 1.120 using Berry’s 148 DEWC’s.

Rule #2.... document!

We used the 5-0-5 to get 3.8grn W231, and seated those to 1.210"... ;)

Which reminds me to email you my spreadsheet for the data tags...


And... don't let him lie to you... that S&W 624 of his is fantastic! I think the trigger on that is as good out of the box as my vintage 57...
 
For years early on I had a 2x6 that I bolted a Lee single stage to. It was totally portable and a c clamp or f clamp was all I needed to hold it to any coffee table, picnic table, or shooting bench at the range. I’d take it with me to process brass at the park while the kids played, to the range to do final workups, and a friends house to teach them the process. You will always have need for a single stage, even if you move up to a turret or progressive later on.

Another point, a logbook is a must, you just won’t remember the details, especially when you are making different loads. You may have a load for paper, bunnies, 100 yard plinking, deer, or self defense, you may use 3 different powders and 5 different bullets and all have different powder charges and overall lengths. Unless you have a photographic memory the logbook will keep you sane. Then more calibers, more bullet types and weights, more powders, and OAL to keep straight even between same caliber guns that prefer different loads.

I load for 6 different 9mm pistols, I use 2 powders, and 3 bullets, and make 9 loads. Most are just nice target loads tuned to each gun, a couple are self defense loads that work in what I’d grab if the excrement hit the oscillating device. Same with my 223/556 rifles, I have 3 rifles and 5 loads(so far).

My logbook is just a 3 ring binder with photocopies of a log sheet I had 35 years ago. Each caliber is separated by a page of heavy cardstock with a tab indicating caliber. Each load I make is given a number and after the load specifics is a place to note how it shot and any comments. The more info you include, the better. You can refer back later and not waste components on something you already tried that didn’t work.
 
A small plastic tote can hold all your supplies and fit under the couch or in a closet. A press bolted to a board with 1/4-20 bolts and wingnuts comes apart quickly when you are done using it. A good enough clamp to hold the board to the table can be picked up at harbor freight if you have one close cheaply and if you don’t have a caliper yet, they have one too. I prefer digital, buy get what works for you. Good led lighting is very beneficial and can’t be underestimated and they have that too.
I like harbor freight for some things, and not for others. I don’t work there or own stock. They just have some things we Reloader’s need and some are good enough to do the job and save some cash.
 
I’m 💯 in on the logbook. Need that for sure. Good thing is I only want to load 2 rounds. 38 wadcutters and 44 skeeter loads. I’d like to hone in one once recipe for the wadcutters and stick to it. Same with 44 special. I don’t want to chase a bunch of calibers. Another question— what’s the exposure to “chemicals” at the reloading bench? I’ve got 2-3 options where to set up. 1. An unused armoire in the living room, table in spare room or my bedroom closet. I’d honestly like to setup in the closet. It’s perfect. The wifey is a sickly woman and I don’t want to hear flak. As long as kroil doesn’t come out she should be good lol
 
Good thing is I only want to load 2 rounds. 38 wadcutters and 44 skeeter loads. I’d like to hone in one once recipe for the wadcutters and stick to it.
That's how I started. I just wanted to "try" reloading, and "only" 230gr fmj for my 45acp 1911.

I decided to write everything down from the very first round, even though I knew I could remember OAL, charge, etc....

Fast forward 5 1/2 years, and I load two rifle cartridges with three different bullets, and I don't really know how many powders. Same for pistol, five different cartridges and who knows how many different bullets and powders.

I’m 💯 in on the logbook.
Start now, keep accurate records, and have something to reference. I'm glad I did, and you may be too.

chris
 
I generally keep a log book of everything I try for a caliber. So, different powders and charges, different bullets. I make notes of the results. If I find something I like, I write it on a page I have for standard loads that I use.

I've found that I am constantly updating my process. So I might find a better way to expand brass, or a different expanding plug diameter, and I keep records on that normally.

I keep like a general page for each caliber on each of the above, but I also keep a page for each bullet I experiment with in each caliber.

I keep an index card with the load and particulars in each bag/box of ammo. With big letters in sharpie for caliber.
 
I’m 💯 in on the logbook. Need that for sure. Good thing is I only want to load 2 rounds. 38 wadcutters and 44 Skeeter loads. I’d like to hone in one once recipe for the wadcutters and stick to it. Same with 44 special. I don’t want to chase a bunch of calibers. Another question— what’s the exposure to “chemicals” at the reloading bench? I’ve got 2-3 options where to set up. 1. An unused armoire in the living room, table in spare room or my bedroom closet. I’d honestly like to setup in the closet. It’s perfect. The wifey is a sickly woman and I don’t want to hear flak. As long as kroil doesn’t come out she should be good lol
You're missing out if you don't load full pressure 38 Specials and not just target/ lighter loads.

Likewise, if you only load Skeeter loads in 44 Special, you're missing out if you don't load standard pressure loads there. Standard pressure 44 Special is just a touch more power than 45 automatic, and pleasant to shoot, not that the Skeeter load isn't manageable. I shoot more standard pressure loads than anything else.

Aside from the fun and the cost savings, one of the main benefits of reloading is the versatility offered.
 
Might be a little strange but I like the equipment and stuff as much as shooting! Lol. Keith bullets and dies, I like the 5-0-5 scale and dippers too. I’ve got a 5-0-5 coming and a Lyman trickler
My dad loved all the stuff, and it's kinda neat having a lot of bits, but having good tools for what you want to do. The big orange Lyman chamfer and debur tool is wonderful after fighting the small Lyman and rcbs rools that are only about 2.5 inches long. A quality priming tool gives consistent results and doesn't make your thumbs feel like they will fall off.
 
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