Who has a Sig P226? Get in here

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To those mentioning the DA/SA, I really don't mind getting used to that. I also owned a P95 and one of the things I liked about it was the DA/SA. I won't have that much trouble adapting, it will just take practice.

The trigger pull isn't one of my concerns, if it was I would have listed it as one. I actually like the Glock trigger, and yes the pull on the Sig is better but that isn't something I listed as a question, now was it?

Thanks for the input for those of you who are sharing your experience and addressing my concerns. I appreciate it.
 
SIG P226 is my favorite pistol. But IMO the Glock will take more neglect/abuse before it stops working. SIGs like to be greased.
 
That's my concern 1KPerDay. I've heard several people say it needs to be lubed/greased regularly, and that's starting to sound too much like a 1911 (read unreliable) for me. I clean my firearms because I want to keep them clean, not because I HAVE to keep them clean in order for them to work.

Idk. The Sig does look pretty and I like SA/DA, but when it comes to the points that matter most to me Glock takes the cake.

Another thing is that I buy things in two's. I have two LCR's, two Mosins, two bolt-action .22's, two 12 gauges, you get the idea. So whichever I get I will be buying a second one at some point. I think I'd rather have two Glock 17s than two Sigs. I guess I'm leaning towards sticking with the 17…
 
I've had a 9mm P226R since 2008. It had a couple stove pipe jams in the first hundred rounds. I used it in a defensive pistol course a while back. It was a rainy day and plenty of mud and dirt got into the gun. While it had a couple hang ups under those conditions so did everyone else's gun that day. This specifically includes the instructor's Glock 19. I suspect that reliability under bad conditions is about equal between the two. SIGs do like to run wet - I think this is more of a preventive maintenance concern than a reliability issue. Some SIG owners have experienced issues with the aluminum frame rails wearing out over time - proper lubrication (grease is advised instead of oil) should limit this. I have not had this issue with mine, however.

The SIG finish is probably one of its weaker points - it just isn't as durable as the tennifer finish on a Glock. I think it gives them character. Finally, although my SIG has held up well, I doubt that any gun is as durable as a Glock.

It may or may not be worth the extra money - I paid $750 for mine. Today they may be priced higher. I think it's a better gun than the Glock 17. However I'm not sure it's $250 better and for me it sure isn't $350 or more better. It's a good gun, but not a $1,000 gun if you ask me.

Magazines are available at larger retailers (I've seen them at Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse, anyway). Parts and holsters you'll likely need to order online. However, these haven't been difficult to find there.

I'm sure you'd really like a P226, but definitely get your hands on one before you buy. The reach to the trigger and decocker may put you off.

Just so you know, I'm strongly considering a Glock 19 for my next purchase. As great as the SIG is, the high cost of the gun and magazines along with the weight remain problematic for me. I'm also looking for something that is simpler and as indestructible as can be engineered today in a handgun. I'm willing to give up a little performance and style to get it, though.
 
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That's my concern 1KPerDay. I've heard several people say it needs to be lubed/greased regularly, and that's starting to sound too much like a 1911 (read unreliable) for me. I clean my firearms because I want to keep them clean, not because I HAVE to keep them clean in order for them to work.
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This is always a head scratcher for me. While clean and lubed certainly can go together, a clean gun and lubed gun are really two different things. Guns are machines, they need to be lubed. Some can go longer without lube than others, but most can go through all the ammo in most people's (certainly there are some of you with ammo stores similar to Winchester/Olin ;)) homes without being cleaned, and probably without being lubed.

Here are a couple of lube comments in regards to guns other than a SIG, but it should hold for a SIG too.

http://pistol-training.com/articles/kevhs-very-opinionated-guide-to-the-beretta-92
Another issue I see with 92FS’s all the time is a lack of lubrication. I once saw an officer at the range have a FTE with his 92FS Inox and say, “This gun is crap! Give me a Glock.” I walked over and checked the gun and saw it was bone dry. Our Conversation went like this:

Me: When was the last time you oiled this thing?
Him: The last time I cleaned it.
Me: When was that?
Him: I dunno. Like two years ago?
Me: Can I see your gun for a sec?
Him: Sure

I lubed the gun with some TW-25B and fired three magazines without a single problem. I then loaded the magazines again and emptied the gun rapid fire into the same target with, you guessed it, no problems. I handed the gun back to him.

Him: I guess I need to oil my gun more.
Me: Yes you do. Don’t call it crap if you don’t take care of it.
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Do you lube your guns a little more often than every two years!?

Pat Rogers on lube/cleaning the AR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBO7P43sLVE

Guns will run a very long time without being cleaned, but they need lube every now and then. I can't think of a scenario where I'd run out of lube before I'd run out of ammo. You can use practically anything for lube.
 
I've heard several people say it needs to be lubed/greased regularly, and that's starting to sound too much like a 1911 (read unreliable) for me. I clean my firearms because I want to keep them clean, not because I HAVE to keep them clean in order for them to work.
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No, SIGs are nothing like 1911s. The SIG is easily disassembled and the few seconds it takes to apply any needed lubrication, well, if that's too much work for you, perhaps you are better off with a Glock.

As far as reliability, as others have noted, if you don't believe SIG's well-established reputation for reliability, again, get a Glock.

With regard to accuracy, I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Glock out-of-the-box accuracy even comes close to that of any SIG -- hasn't enough experience with SIGs. Not to mention that SIG supplies its pistols with real sights, and all models are available with the superb factory SIGLite night-sights ... Glocks? Ah ...

Not sure what the OP's issue with buying used guns is, either. The SIG CPO program provides you with essentially a brand-new pistol. The three or four CPOs I've had came with no slide rail wear whatsoever, one came with a brand-new barrel, and all came with brand-new internals/springs and sights.


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JTQ, you misread what I said. Obviously I know that cleaning and lubing are two different things. Everything you said I already knew. Thanks anyway though.


Old Dog, I was wondering if someone would get all hurt over my 1911 comment. I never said they were anything like 1911's except for my comparison that they both need to be lubed/greased regularly to function properly, according to some folks here.

Not sure why you're bringing up accuracy, I never said a thing about that. I can shoot a Glock just fine and it's plenty accurate for me. I'm sure Sigs are equal if not better in accuracy, but I'm not shooting these guns from a rest and I'm not worried about a very negligible difference in accuracy of the guns. This will NOT be a reason I choose the Sig over the Glock. If it was, I would have listed it in my OP.

As far as my "issue with buying used guns", it's MY issue, and not yours. I really don't care if others think it's silly to not buy used, but I don't unless it's military surplus. I have my reasons and that's not what this thread is about. Try not to lose any sleep over it.
 
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The Sig 226 MK25 is a very good pistol. One of the best I've owned. I should not have traded mine off. The SEALS know a good product and it's worth the money. Identify them by the engraved "anchor".
 
Hammer059 wrote,
JTQ, you misread what I said. Obviously I know that cleaning and lubing are two different things. Everything you said I already knew. Thanks anyway though.

Old Dog, I was wondering if someone would get all hurt over my 1911 comment. I never said they were anything like 1911's except for my comparison that they both need to be lubed/greased regularly to function properly, according to some folks here.
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Perhaps we are misreading or misunderstanding each other.

I'm not sure folks are "all hurt over my 1911 comment", but we're not sure what you consider "need to be lubed/greased regularly to function properly". Sure you need to lube a 1911, or SIG, or just about any gun for it to perform its' best. You don't need to lube them up with any special lube and you don't need to lube them after every box of ammo you shoot through them. However, chances are good you'll need to lube them more than every two years, and the point I was making in my post above is you'll probably need to lube them more often than you'll need to clean them.
 
Ah, this poster isn't "all hurt" over any comments made about any particular platform or brand of firearm.

Couple of us just trying to clear up some misconceptions or misperceptions, that's all.

And OP, it was someone else's comment about accuracy I responded to. Really -- some us just can't "figure out the Glock trigger?"
 
I'm getting the Glock 17. Paying for college is expensive and I don't feel the P226 is worth $300 more new.

To those of you who answered my questions and shared your relevant experience with a P226, thanks for your input.
 
I'm getting the Glock 17. Paying for college is expensive and I don't feel the P226 is worth $300 more new.
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My P228 and my P226 (40 S&W) each cost less used than what a new Gen4 17 goes for. I've never had problems with used Sigs that I've bought, other guns I've bought used are a different story. I would much rather have my P228 than a 9mm P226. I like the P226 in .40 better than a P226 in 9mm, the prices are right for used ones like mine. BTW, I have a Glock 17 and it is a terrific gun!
 
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Thermactor, nice try at being a smart-ass, but I already knew that. I said I won't buy used guns. Being test-fired at the factory doesn't make it "used" by my standards and the standards of 99% of folks. Thanks for your valuable contribution to the discussion though, are you a rocket scientist?
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Yes but only by day. By night I am a mild-mannered poster on a major metropolitan gun forum.

Pssst. Today they'd call a rocket scientist an "aerospace engineer".
 
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YOu wont go wrong with either choice.

BUT, once you get the Glock, you WILL dream of the day you get the P226.

be safe.
 
I've carried Sig Sauers for many years now. More years than I want to count. Got my first personal Sig 18 years ago. Still have it - not one malfunction, glitch ... ever.

I have nothing bad to say about Glocks - they have just never suited me even after considerable range time. Very glad the OP found the pistol he prefers - the $300 he saved would be well reinvested in education (that'll pay for, what, one textbook nowadays?).

Sig happens to be the EDC tool for me. I've started using Lucas Red & Tacky grease rather than the premium pistol grease products. So far, extremely satisfactory results. Not sure whether Red & Tacky would melt a Glock though :evil:.

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I am glad to hear that wojownik. That's a nice collection you have there, of both Sigs and Passports lol.

Ha yeah you guessed it. I think the most I've paid for a new textbook so far is $280 or something like that. Sometimes used ones aren't available and it sucks. Unlike guns, I try and buy used textbooks whenever possible!

I agree that Glock seems to be the best choice for me, but I really do like the P226 and I wouldn't mind getting one someday after I graduate and move back to my hometown in Kansas.
 
Great deals on SiG pistols ended with sell out of initial batches of P6 surplus pistols. Nice guns if one doesn't mid sized single stack pistol with DA trigger pull of about 20 pounds. American version was P225 easily distinguished by lack of holster retention notch in hammer spur.
Thankfully there are good number of 3rd generation S&W alloy-framed bargains out there. These are the main reason I never bought SIG-Sauer.
 
My P220 has never required any lube whatsoever to function. I did put some dry lube on the slide where the finish was starting to wear but remember that pistol has a very high round count. I applied the dry lube once and it solved the problem.

Who ever said Sigs require a lot of lube doesn't have a Sig like mine is all I can say.
 
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