Who has shot a "zero-jam" semi auto?

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  1. CDW4ME

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    Glock 19, 22, 32 and a couple of Ruger 1911s with hundreds of rounds through them and no jams.
     
  2. RETG

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    Never had a SIG jam, H&K USP once or twice, but when in mud and jungles that can happen. Beretta PX4 9mm once, .40 never.

    My Taurus .44 titanium pistol has jammed a few times due to bullet creep.
     
  3. Random 8

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    I have 2 that are close. A Romanian TT33, and a modern FNS 9mm.

    In the case of the TT33, the only malfunctions were due to ammunition of dubious quality, namely hard primers. This particular ammo was difficult to fire in multiple handguns, with a second strike almost always igniting. I have literally never had a fail to feed, extract, eject or stovepipe with this handgun over some 3000 rounds or so.

    With the FNS, I have also had some clearly ammunition related hiccups while testing handloads to find the minimum power to reliably cycle or working up a load from start charge. Other than that, I have carried and test fired this handgun in some pretty deplorable conditions with a handloaded version of my standard defensive ammo with zero stoppages. Adverse conditions tested include immersion in directional drilling fluid (water, bentonite clay and microballoon polymer), light icing of exterior components, excessive dust, debris (spruce needles)in magazine, powdered snow in mechanism, and -30F temperatures. Took it all in stride. This in addition to over 10K "standard" target ammunition in "normal" conditions and a cleaning regimen that basically consists of hosing the moving parts with starting fluid followed by a light lubrication with liquid wrench or CLP. This thing is bomb proof.
     
  4. Vern Humphrey

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    I have put literally thousands of rounds through my Kimber Custom Classic in the last 25 years. The only problems I have had were caused by not sufficiently ironing out the flare. I started running my nail over my handloads and any that showed any remaining flare went back through the taper crimp die. The problem went away.
     
  5. Shawn Dodson

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    I have a Gen 3 Glock 19 that has never failed me except when I replaced the factory connector with a Ghost connector. I experienced several failures to fire. I re-installed the factory connector and it continues to operate flawlessly to this day. Thousands of rounds since I got it back in 2000.
     
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    I'm sure if you shoot any pistol long enough without performing maintenance it will jam, and if you try to shoot with cheap or damaged mags almost anything will jam, or if you shoot the cheapest gun show reloads anything might jam and if you don't know how to seat a magazine properly everything will certainly have a FTF. But I have many semi autos that have never had a failure of any kind. My Sig X6, S&W 1911SC and Springfield XDm 5.25 are examples.
     
  7. AK103K

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    I think its a mistake to assume youre not ever going to have a stoppage, and if you arent regularly at least setting the basic types up to happen in your normal practice, and instilling the response, so you just do it without thought, you're doing yourself a disservice.
     
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  8. Zerodefect

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    9mm's and .380's tend to jam due to wide variances in ammo strength and quality.

    I've got a few ''no jam ever'' auto pistols:
    Glock 23.4
    Glock 41
    Dan Wesson Valor 1911
    Glock 34.4, but I replaced the recoil spring with the Gen 3 version before I ever shot it.

    I already have all of the bugs worked out of ammo, mags, and lube. And I'm done using crappy Russian ammo. There's a ton of issues eliminated right there.
     
  9. Mosin77

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    I have a Bauer .25 that fired its first mag perfectly. Every subsequent mag has had a jam or two. Don’t have enough motivation or range time or $$$ to get to the bottom of the issue.

    I have a Mauser 1914 that sometimes likes to stovepipe on the last round. It’s 100 and has seen a world war so I cut it some slack. One day I’ll see if I can diagnose. I have a PPK that’s equally inconsistent but in that case I think the fault is mainly a weak hammer spring.

    My Springfield 1911 would intermittently stovepipe, usually on the last round. Until I realized the factory mag had a big dent in the feed lips. Started using some aftermarket mags and nary an issue since.

    My Luger would periodically fail to extract. A new extractor seems to have solved the issue. Maybe the original just needed a new spring and a good cleaning underneath (there was a lot of black gunk) but I don’t mind; the original looked fine and is a serialized part so I’m happy to run an aftermarket to avoid the risk of breaking an original part.

    My Astra 400 had some issues till I squeezed a bit of oil into the mag. I cut it some slack since I forgot to do anything with the mags when I stripped and cleaned the gun upon acquiring it, and I bet those mags haven’t had any attention since the Spanish Civil War.

    All my other semi-autos have had no issues. It’s easier to enumerate the ones that have. I think it’s very possible to have a semi-auto that is boringly reliable and never fails to go bang. It just needs to be a relatively modern design with undamaged, in-spec parts and shooting quality ammo.
     
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  10. armedwalleye

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    I’ve never had a jam in a third gen S&W. In fact, they’ll reliably feed empty cases from the magazine.
     
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    Haven't read what's above, but I don't recall any misfires or jams with any of my half-dozen or so Tokarevs, 6 Beretta M70/71's, or my Glock 43X.
     
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    IMHO, my guns work a lot better for me when I get them armored on at least an annual basis.
     
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  13. Tallball

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    There are doubtless some semiautomatic pistols that I haven't owned for very long and haven't shot more than a few hundred rounds through that haven't malfunctioned. They will eventually.

    I bought my Russian Makarov brand-new in 1988 or so. I don't believe that it's ever malfunctioned. I've shot at least a few thousand rounds through it.
     
  14. commygun

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    I only shoot factory ammo, too, and I have never had a jam with my Glock 30 or my Sig P220. The Glock 30 really is, functionally if not aesthetically, perfection.
     
  15. Terry G

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    Yet to have any in my CZ's, including the surplus CZ 82's. (I did blow an 82 up). The thing is eventually I'll hit a bad round or have a magazine fail. That's a malfunction that's not really the gun, however. I clean my gun's after their shot, no exceptions. The real wonder is the Colt SP-1 I bought in 1970. I can't even imagine how many rounds through it, never a "jam."
     
  16. FFGColorado

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    Glock 17/4, Glock 26/4..probably 5000 rounds each..never had any failure of any kind..

    Both box stock and bought pre-owned.
     
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    Never have experienced a hiccup with any the HK squeeze-cockers, some of which left Oberndorf rollmarked with a W preceding Germany...
     
  18. test drive

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    XDS in .45 , Beretta 92c in 9mm
     
  19. jrmiddleton425

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    I will echo Terry G's answer...I have yet to be able to MAKE either of my CZ pistols jam when firing them with live ammunition.
     
  20. Meeks36

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    Problem is when they jam its a paper weight. If and when my glock jams slap rack bang. Depending on malfunction.

    I know some will say im lion but my hipoint never jammed. It was the carbine but it ran like nothing else. Didn't matter the ammo. Wish I would have kept it.
     
  21. alfsauve

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    Had 17 people on my squad yesterday. All but the revolver shooter had some malfunction or other. Wait, even the revo shooter (me) had a light strike. True, none of these guns were "stock" as even the "production" guns had some competition mods made to them. And true some if not a lot of these malfunctions may have been due to ammo issues.

    Just an observation from the range.
     
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    Not ZERO, I think 3 or 4 in 50K + rounds in a Springfield 9mm 1911.
    (one of which was a reload with bad brass before I case gauged )
    Normally reliable, but if you shoot enough sooner or later you will get one...
     
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    So true.

    After shooting over 650,000 rounds since the 90s (Just for pistol rounds not counting rifle or 22LR), especially during 1000-4000 round USPSA range practice sessions individually and with family/friend shooting sessions, I have seen all makes and models of pistols jam/failure to fully chamber/return to full battery to include Glocks.

    I found even my reliable Glocks started to choke after 4000 rounds of not cleaning and shooting various major/minor power factor loads with hard caking build up at extractors and behind the breech wall face to prevent striker from fully indenting primer cups to cause misfires.

    But with regular cleaning and lubing, even with tightest match barrels like my railed Sig 1911, they will reliably run without jamming.
     
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    I own a lot of guns and don't have any with round counts as high as some of the members here as my range time is divided among them, but have a few with 3000+ rounds through them with no malfunctions. They include two 9mm Dan Wessons, an Eco and Guardian, a couple M&P 9's, two CZ's, a PCR and 75 stainless and a Ruger Mark IV which has the highest round count, I'm guessing over 5000. I'm sure they'll eventually malfunction in some way, but so many manufacturers making guns which go thousands of rounds before a malfunction speaks highly of their quality.
     
  25. WVfishguy

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    I have shot and collected S&Ws, Rugers, Dan Wessons and Colts for more than 45 years. Thousands of rounds, so many that my right thumb joint is permanently deformed. I have had many, many more failures with revolvers than I've EVER had with semi autos. And the revolver failures were nearly all unfixable at the range, whereas the few semi auto malfs were quickly cleared up. Even the time I loaded a hot 10mm load in a .40 S&W case, blowing the slide up and off a Springfield XDm. I was still was able to fix the gun right there and continue shooting. And nearly all of the malfs with semis were ammo related. The exceptions, of course, are Ruger single actions, which I believe are nearly incapable of failing. In the non-canonical scripture, it is written: "On the evening of the sixth day, The Lord spoketh unto William Ruger, his prophet, and said, "Bill, thou shall maketh a handgun which shall never fail, so all handgunners, who I hold to be blessed among all ye brethren, will have a tool they can cherish and love, and will never go 'Ka-boom' in thine blessed hands. Here's the blueprints, get to work." And He saw it was good, and it was done." 3:11:11.JPG
     
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