Who is in a militia here?

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Here's an interesting corollary [or at least interesting for me]:

Has anybody here ever been in what the MSM call a "militia group"?

What are they really like?
 
rock jock,

For all those members of, ahem....MILITIAS. can you explain to me what exactly the purpose of your group is?
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As a member of the Massachusetts Volunteer Militia, I can answer from my perspective.

The MVM exists to support the Massachusetts National Guard. Basically, we train, and we assist wherever the National Guard asks us to. This often means pulling guard duty (such as during the Democratic National Committee, in Boston, last year), but we've assisted with activations, marched with the NG in parade, and other stuff that I'm just not remembering right now.


As for your implied disbelief in the validity of militia organizations, please remember that there is nothing invalid with private militias. Around the time of the Revolutionary War, most militias were private. That said, the MVM is not private. We operate under the orders of the Govorner of Massachusetts and the Adjutant General of the National Guard.

You can read a little more about us at http://massvolunteermilitia.org
 
What do you think "well regulated" means?

I think it is an individual or a group that eats a lot of fiber. :rolleyes:
An army [militia] travels on its stomach. :neener:
 
state restrictions on firearms' magazine capacity

1.} California 2,}Massechusette 3.}New York 4.] Maryland[not over 20rds] 5.}Hawiian residents pistol-10rds,New Jersey residents[not over 15rds]
Washington D.C./ NewYork [10rds.orless].**many retailers refuse shipment to these areas + Mass. With the exception of maryland and New Jersey the
remaining are 10rd limitations.
this infrormation gleaned from CDNN
www.cdnnsports.com OR www.targetsportsinc.com
 
What exactly do militias do? I get this mental image of fat military wannabes running around the woods in camo, but I realize this is what the leftist extremists want me to think.
 
Section 312. Militia duty: exemptions

(a) The following persons are exempt from militia duty:
(1) The Vice President.
(2) The judicial and executive officers of the United States,
the several States and Territories, and Puerto Rico.
(3) Members of the armed forces, except members who are not on
active duty.
(4) Customhouse clerks.
(5) Persons employed by the United States in the transmission
of mail.
(6) Workmen employed in armories, arsenals, and naval shipyards
of the United States.
(7) Pilots on navigable waters.
(8) Mariners in the sea service of a citizen of, or a merchant
in, the United States.
(b) A person who claims exemption because of religious belief is
exempt from militia duty in a combatant capacity, if the
conscientious holding of that belief is established under such
regulations as the President may prescribe. However, such a person
is not exempt from militia duty that the President determines to be
noncombatant.
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Does it say anything here about having a gimpy leg, because if it does, I missed it. I'm just a couple of years under the limit, but have a seriously messed up foot. No running, jogging, or even fast walking for this boy. I'm not a bad shot, but I'm not the specimen I'd want in a militia protecting me.
 
So us FOGRAPTBHSO that were formerly in the military get to be officers???

[Cartman voice]
Sweeeet...
[/Cartman voice]

Anyone interested in being a plank owner in the Texas Amphibious Cavalry Brigade, PM me... ;)

S/F

Farnham
Commanding Officer
Texas Amphibious Cavalry Brigade
 
As for your implied disbelief in the validity of militia organizations, please remember that there is nothing invalid with private militias. Around the time of the Revolutionary War, most militias were private. That said, the MVM is not private. We operate under the orders of the Govorner of Massachusetts and the Adjutant General of the National Guard.
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I'm not implying anything. Your group obviously is valid because it is officially recognized and sanctioned. Other, "unofficial" militias, OTOH, I still don't see what their purpose is. For example, natural disaster occurs. The Governor isn't going to call you ever, period. He'll call the boy scouts before he calls a private militia group. So, what will you do with your training? Protect society? Nope, that's the job of the NG or local/state LE. Protect your valuable property? Fine, except I would rather get my training from Thunder Ranch or Gunsite than the FOGRAPTBHSO club. Or maybe you're training for the invasion of the blue-helmeted Task Farce? Al-Queda? Godzilla? C'mon, help me out here.
 
Protect your valuable property? Fine, except I would rather get my training from Thunder Ranch or Gunsite than the FOGRAPTBHSO club. Or maybe you're training for the invasion of the blue-helmeted Task Farce? Al-Queda? Godzilla? C'mon, help me out here.
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No everyone has the money or time to go to Thunder Ranch or Gunsite. I'd rather have some training from some old men who may not get everything right than no training at all.* Hopefully some of the old men have some experience or real training under their lengthening belts, and can pass it on.

* Of course, this is based on the fact that I have enough common sense to figure out what does and doesn't make sense, not just listen to a bunch of old wannabe's.
 
I will attempt to reduce the term "militia" to what I think the founding fathers considered it to be,, ,, ,, BUT of course, this is just the opinion of a serviceman of three years with a GED... The militia is ANYONE that will support The Constitution Of The United States of America against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic.

"member of a militia" has a bad connotation in todays politically correct language, but I do not think it was meant that way when it was first used.

This is just the opinion of an uneducated patriot, your opinion may vary.
 
[quoteThe Governor isn't going to call you ever, period. He'll call the boy scouts before he calls a private militia group. So, what will you do with your training? Protect society? Nope, that's the job of the NG or local/state LE. Protect your valuable property? Fine, except I would rather get my training from Thunder Ranch or Gunsite than the FOGRAPTBHSO club. Or maybe you're training for the invasion of the blue-helmeted Task Farce? Al-Queda? Godzilla? C'mon, help me out here.[/quote]

So while I disagree with several points of the above message, particularly with the "governor" part [I feel that in some places they actually might call up private militias, Montana comes to mind], and the training part [apparently quite a few militia members go to GunSite or the like], I'd still like to see an answer to Rock Jock's question.
 
Oh hey, I can picture this...

A few dozen of the guys I know from the Supershoot in an Iraq safari...

"Hmm... Varmints at 2 o'clock."

"Range me."

"643 yards."

"Okay, we've got a 4 mph crosswind, but there's a switch right on other side of that gully. Watch the one on the left, and let's check POI."

"You're zeroed. Range is hot."

"Pass me that soda - and then let's go back to the motorhome and crank up the AC."
 
rock jocks question

I am, believe it or not, NOT a member of any formal "militia", so I don't have a dog in this hunt. However, I found the tone of rock jock's question very condemning, like he was looking down his nose at those who would dare to be a militia member.

It seems to me we should respect those men (and women) who take it upon themselves to gain additional training/skills on the off chance they might be needed someday. Whether they use that knowledge in service to others or only themselves, they still have skill sets that I lack and would like to have. Regardless of any Govenor's choice to call a "private militia", having skill and knowledge is NEVER a bad thing.

Point two, since when does Thunder Ranch or Front Site have the lock on proper training :fire: ? This mindset is so flawed it is pathetic :banghead: . Most of the training I have is secondhand from men who have attended those places, learned well and returned to share their knowledge with others. One DOES NOT have to attend one of the gun rag promoted centers to gain valuable knowlkedge. That being said, I am looking forward to an upcoming trip to front site. It will be my first time at a "REAL" firearms training facility and I am very excited about it, however, I do not believe that I will receive evrything I need to know there.

Some of the best people I know are FOGRAPTBHSOs, by the way. :neener:

Anyone know if there is a militia in Alabama...I think I'd like to inquire about membership/training... :D
 
I'm interested to see an answer to rock jock's question, from a private militia member, as well. I think we can ignore the apparant tone (which I'm not 100% sure was the intended tone, after reading rock jock's reply to me), and focus on the question:


So, does anyone know what the express mission of any private militias are? And, does anyone know what kind of relationship they may have with their local governments?
 
I'm in the ACLU

Asian Christian Libertarian Unit.

So far it's just me and Twoblink, and I'm a very nominal libertarian.

We're armed to the teef but the problem is I don't have teeth (see banjo) and Twoblink insists we all go to .40 Steyrs to be fully logistical.
 
What do you think "well regulated" means?
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Rob is correct. "Well regulated" means well trained, timed and practiced. A "regulator" is another term for a clock denoting precision. The left always points to regulated as meaning restricted by government regulations. This couldn't be further from the truth. And we are the militia, the National Guard is part of the Federal Army.
 
I prefer to think of myself as a modern day Minuteman actually...

I may be a FOGRA but I'm not PTBHSO. Just plunk me down in a good spot with my rifle and I'll hold 'em off whilst the rest of you skedaddle...

;)

Wait, did you guys say I get to be a General?

Cooool,,, :D
 
2nd ammendment,

Ya know, I read your post, then completely forgot about it when I posted again :)

Good answer, though :)
 
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