I've got an old Grendel P12. I don't carry it much anymore. It's still reliable, just I have better guns. The thing has a crappy DA trigger, sorta starts out stiff and becomes lighter, hella hard to control, but it holds 12 rounds and in length and height, is the same size as my buddy's LCP. It's almost an inch wide, but still only weighs 12 ounces. It's kind of a neat gun, ahead of its time. Has plastic magazines I never thought looked very sturdy, but they're both still workin'. That gun is 20 years old or so, so I guess I can say the magazines held up. I do like the heal clip mag release for a pocket carry much better than a conventional 1911 style release.