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Who Makes The Best Pistol Primers?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Ala Dan, Mar 17, 2004.

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Best Pistol Primers Are Made By-

Poll closed Apr 16, 2004.
  1. Winchester

    46 vote(s)
    55.4%
  2. Federal

    23 vote(s)
    27.7%
  3. CCI

    12 vote(s)
    14.5%
  4. Remington

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  5. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Ala Dan

    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

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    Greeting's All-

    What manufactuer'er makes the best pistol primer's?
    In the past, I've used Winchester, CCI, and Federal. Is
    there something I'm missing?

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
  2. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    Ala Dan - fellow loader!

    True, there are Rem too. I have used those and not had any real probs but not been used that often these days.

    I choose Fed over any others .... and this is partly of course simple reliability but also because they are the most reliable re thickness of metal .... I have had way too many FTF's with CCI ... tho Winchester have never let me down I must admit.

    Back in compo' days, when many of us had our revo's tuned and lighter on spring ... Feds were the best .. no 2 ways about it. Always stick to them now.
     
  3. Jeeper

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    I chose winchester only because that is what seats the easiest in my 650. Federal seem to stick a little more but I have had better standard deviation with them. I think it is one of those choices you make early and then stick with. I try and stay with the same stuff unless it isnt reliable. There are so many options out there that the combinations are endless. Basically I chose winchester because they are readily availble cheaply at gun show and they seat easy in my dillon. How is that for a reason! :D
     
  4. "yote"

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    I use Win for everything. I have found that they are the most consistant
    of the bunch. My second choice is Federal Match. The rest, I won't
    even use unless I absolutley have to. Too inconsistant. (lot #'s).
     
  5. Valkman

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    I've used Win Primers only so far for .45ACP, and they've been great. I bought CCI 400 primers to use in .223 and had 2 FTF's in the first 50. The Lee Auto Loader says to use Win or CCI only, so I think I'll go to Win for the .223 also.
     
  6. racenutz

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    I've used only CCI primers in my Lee priming tools & out of ~3K rounds I could count the number of FTF on one hand. This really doesn't bother me as all I load is range ammo & use factory ammo for defense uses (there's a can or worms:D )

    Are Federal primers safe to use in any loading tools that hold multiple primers? Seems to me that if they are unsafe in tray based tools they would even worse in tube-fed systems.
     
  7. Ala Dan

    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

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    You know I started out using Federal years ago, with
    good success; but over the years I changed suppliers
    and that brought on a switch to CCI and Winchester.
    I can't recall ever using primers from Remington? But,
    I must say that honestly I haven't experienced many
    problems with either of the brands that I have used.
    Sometimes Winchester's seem a little tight, when used
    in S&B or military cases; but they perform well.

    Yesterday, I bought a brick of Federal's #100 small
    pistol primers; just too see if they are as good as they
    used to be?

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
  8. Ben Shepherd

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    95% federal, even though they are a little bulky to store. I've found they have less deviation than other manufacturers. They also seem to have there sensitivity right where I want it.

    5% CCI, for certain "heavy duty" magnum pistol loads. Slightly harder, less tendency to flow when you push things. (And yes, I'm very careful when doing this.)

    Bro.-in-law uses winchester exclusively. He loads pistol from 380 to 454 and has no complaints to date.
     
  9. tbeb

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    I voted Winchester because that's what I use. I don't know if one brand is better than another. I have tried Federal and CCI. I don't use Federal because they're not to be used with my Lee priming tool. I prefer Federal because I think they're "softer". I think CCI primers are "harder". (Softer and harder really isn't the right terminology but you know what I mean.)
     
  10. Razor 10

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    I will vote Federal. Like alot of others have said they seem to be the easiest to light up. I have used Winchesters with no ill effects but still like Federal, they also seem to seat easiest as well with less devieation in velocity.



    Nick:)
     
  11. Ktulu

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    I voted CCI because they are the only primer I've used. After many many thousands of reloads I haven't had one failure to fire. I understand that when I get my 625 and get it tuned up I'll have to switch to Federal.
     
  12. Poodleshooter

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    Winchester. I've had no primer failures, and the combined large pistol and large pistol magnum primers has worked very well in my .45ACP and .44Mag loads. I've never had the problems seating Winchesters that I had when I used CCI primers. They're also the least expensive primers in my area.
     
  13. Eskimo Jim

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    I have been using Federal Small Pistol primers for 38 special +P and haven't found a reason to try something different.

    -Jim
     
  14. M2HMGHB

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    I'll vote Winchester too. When I started loading for my 1911 and my father's Glock the Glock would not reliably fire the CCI primers, switched to Winchester and no more problems.
     
  15. Lloyd Smale

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    I use them all every gun and every load for every gun usually likes a different primer.
     
  16. Delmar

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    Had a batch of Winchesters to give me some problems a few years ago, when they went to the brass color, but no problem since. Don't know what that was about, but since I was loading for 45 ACP and all of my 45's have heavy steel hammers and stock main springs, it wasn't that the primer wasn't getting smacked hard enough.....
     
  17. tc300mag1

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    winchester for my taste
     
  18. Sludge

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    I didnt really care about the hardness of the primers when I started reloading. However, when I started looking to shoot the Stock Service Revolver division of IDPA there was too much of an advantage to switching to Federal primers. They are softer, and I can turn back the hammer spring on the wheel gun quite a bit over what it takes to run a Win primer. Makes for a softer trigger pull, and a bit better shooting when im at speed.

    I also use Federal Gold Match primers on my rifle shooting and some CCI.

    Overall, I run more Federal than anything else.
     
  19. HSMITH

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    I voted Winchester, since that is what I use the most of. I do like Federal primers a lot though too.

    I won't use CCI again.
     
  20. WESHOOT2

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    Pun-fu is strong.

    I had to consider this very carefully; I voted for CCI. While I've used R-P, CCI, Federal, and Winchester, my notes suggest CCI most often meets my needs.

    My 'tuned' wheels need the softer Federal primers for reliable ignition, and R-P primers give certain loads the best accuracy. Winchester's LP is perfect when I need something between 'hot' and 'not', but overall I choose CCI.
    A look at my stock shows all four brands.........
     
  21. Black Snowman

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    I started out on Federal and moved to CCI when I got my Load Master. CCI's take a lot to set them off but I don't lighten springs in my guns so they've always gone "bang" when they were supposed to and have never gone "bang" when they weren't. Feds went bang 100% of the time when I wanted to and once when I didn't.

    I use Winchesters in my 10mm loads for slightly more ignition "oompf" since they're between magnums and standards for power. I'm sure the CCIs would do the trick but it makes me feel clever to have a differant primer for them ;)

    As for the "best" I'd have to say Eley (sp?). Primarily by reputation. Not a ton of direct experiance. Of course, they only make rimfires to my knowlege.
     
  22. jdkelly

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    Ididn't Vote. but......

    I like to use W-W for my semi-auto and bolt guns. But I find that my revolvers, with light hammer strikes, like the softer Federal primers.


    Respectfully,

    jdkelly
     
  23. Blueduck

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    Only real reloading problem I ever had was with primers seating (CCI), called Dillion and they said not to use CCI, problem solved. Other than that Win, Rem or Fed all work fine by me.
     
  24. Paul "Fitz" Jones

    Paul "Fitz" Jones Moderator - Emeritus

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    Primer Choice

    In my selling a thousand progressive reloaders I advised my customers to use Federal for the 25 yard Bullseye range for their reliability and for the 50 yard Bullseye range I recommended Winchester because they are a little hotter and all the explosions that happened in progressive reloaders that I investigated were caused by CCI primers.
    Also when I sold a primer turret holding a thousand primers to set on the reloader primer magazines I required that the customers write me that they agreed to never use CCI primers in them.

    Fitz
     
  25. 45crittergitter

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    I mostly use Federal. I don't think there is a "best." However, here is what I have compiled from various gun rags:

    Federal primers are considered to be slightly more sensitive than other brands, because Federal is the only company to use "basic" lead styphnate. Lead styphnate is the primary explosive agent in centerfire primers. There are two types: basic and normal. The difference between the two is in the chemistry, but basic lead styphnate has a finer grain structure and is, therefore, more sensitive or easy to ignite. All the other manufacturers use normal lead styphnate.

    There are also differences among the various manufacturers in the chemistry of their primers and the construction of their cups and anvils. CCI pistol primers are generally assumed to have a slightly thicker cup. Federal primers use a thinner cup than CCI, Winchester and Remington, so Federals can ignite with a lighter blow.

    Remington 7½ primers have a thick, soft cup (some say just harder) which makes them easier to light but also very tough. They should eliminate any problem from the cup flowing into the firing pin hole.

    Winchester primers are fairly hot. In standard rifle primers, Remington and CCI are normally mildest and Winchester the hottest, acting like a very hot standard primer or a mild magnum, with Federal 210 in the middle. Federal 215s have the reputation of being the hottest magnum rifle primers, but tests indicate that’s not necessarily true anymore.
     
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