Why all the negativity towards Rem Oil?

[stchman]

IIRC, Rem Oil is probably one of the most popular selling firearms lube on the market.

I hear people complain that it's too thin, evaporates easily, and they "feel" is doesn't do a adequate job of lubing.

I watched Fred Hart's YouTube channel Gear Obsession and he used his Plate of Truth where Rem Oil was one of the participants. After several weeks of being exposed to the elements, the metal where Fred rubbed Rem Oil was rust free along with a lot of the other lubes. Rem Oil looked like it started to fail after about a month of being in the elements.

My question is why such negativity. I keep hearing people's deep emotional attachments to certain lubes, but nothing to back it up.

I have been a Rem Oil user for years and all my firearms are rust free. Granted I don't leave my guns in the backyard in the elements for weeks at a time, but for me Rem Oil appears to do it's job. I would be willing to bet that virtually all the members of THR don't leave their firearms out in the elements for weeks at a time either.

I recently started using Mobil 1 as a lube. Since I change my own oil, the residual amounts of oil left in the 6 one quart bottles adds up to almost 8 ounces. I figure I can get lube for virtually free since I dispose of the bottle in the trash.

I mostly use Rem Oil in the spray can since it is inexpensive (less than $7 for a 10oz spray can at Walmart), and said can last for about a year.

So why use these ultra expensive designer lubes when what I use works and works well?

Any thoughts?

 

[chicharrones]

So why use these ultra expensive designer lubes when what I use works and works well?

Any thoughts?

I don't use fancy gun oils, but here in Southeast Texas RemOil is too thin for the hot summer months. It just runs everywhere instead of staying where I want it to be. That's for lube purposes.

For anti-rust? I just wipe down my gun with whatever oil I'm using which is usually a light engine oil.

 

[Vonderek]

So why use these ultra expensive designer lubes when what I use works and works well?

Marketing. People are always looking for the latest and greatest. If what you are using works well for you then no reason to change or worry about it.

 

[stchman]

I don't use fancy gun oils, but here in Southeast Texas RemOil is too thin for the hot summer months. It just runs everywhere instead of staying where I want it to be. That's for lube purposes.

For anti-rust? I just wipe down my gun with whatever oil I'm using which is usually a light engine oil.

How do you determine that Rem Oil is too "thin" for southeast Texas? Does Rem Oil start smoking?

As far as "where you want it to be", is that the best place for it to be?

In southeast Texas, do gun rust during the hot summer months that have Rem Oil applied to them?

Do you see where I am coming from?

 

[stchman]

Marketing. People are always looking for the latest and greatest. If what you are using works well for you then no reason to change or worry about it.

So you're saying that these products depend more on marketing and hype than actual performance?

I have found that a lot of gun products the makers put the word "tactical" in front and charge a price premium.

 

[silicosys4]

I used to use Remoil, but it does not do well for long term storage.
I got tired of opening the safe and seeing all that rem oil drained down into and onto my wood stocks, staining them instead of staying inside the action where it would actually be useful.
If I applied it lightly enough that it wouldn't run, after a while in the safe it would evaporate, in many instances i felt i needed to relube before shooting the gun.
I have since moved on to other lubes that are thicker and stay where they are needed, and remain during storage.

 

[stchman]

I used to use Remoil, but it does not do well for long term storage.
I got tired of opening the safe and seeing all that rem oil drained down into and onto my wood stocks, staining them instead of staying inside the action where it would actually be useful.
I have since moved on to other lubes that are thicker and stay where they are needed

I think you're supposed to wipe any excess lube off before storing.

 

[silicosys4]

I think you're supposed to wipe any excess lube off before storing.

Didn't matter. Oil collected in small crevices and in the trigger group always ran out. See my edited post about evaporation as well.
I've found other products that don't have these issues so I'm good on the remoil. You may not have the same issues I did.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I used Rem Oil for about 20 years. I never experienced rust on a single gun. I had guns stored and unchecked for up to a year at a time, too. I have nothing bad to say about it.

 

[chicharrones]

How do you determine that Rem Oil is too "thin" for southeast Texas? Does Rem Oil start smoking?

Smoking? Only from hot barrels when a lot of ammo is going down the tube. Same as any oil.

As far as "where you want it to be", is that the best place for it to be?

RemOil is thin and runny. If it's warm outside, it's too runny for my preferences. It doesn't get that cold here so I prefer a thicker oil so the oil stays on the mechanical parts where I oil it. In fact, I'll use a light grease for the same reason.

In southeast Texas, do gun rust during the hot summer months that have Rem Oil applied to them?

Rust could happen here whatever the temperature just like anywhere. I keep guns wiped down with a bit of oil occasionally to keep the humidity at bay.

Personally, the thinness of RemOil isn't a problem for me on the outside of a gun doing rust prevention duties for guns wiped down on a regular basis. Yet, since I don't keep RemOil on hand anymore I don't have any to use for that purpose.

 

[chicharrones]

I think you're supposed to wipe any excess lube off before storing.

That's the thing that bugged me the most. I think most of a bottle of RemOil got wiped off as excess after oiling a gun after cleaning. I might as well have poured alcohol in my guns and watched it all run out.

Seriously though, I do think RemOil is a great oil for getting into really small crevices. If I lived in an area that had real winters, I'd probably still use it.

 

[Johnny_B_Goode]

I used Remoil ever since WD40 was deemed not to be good for guns. I have never had any problems with Remoil. I do store my guns muzzle down so any excess oil will run onto a rag in the bottom of my safe. Most of my guns have a wood stock. None of them have any issues with soft or punky wood. I changed to SafariLand CLP a couple years ago. CLP is about the same price as Remoil and I feel that CLP is a better product. If I couldn't get CLP I would go back to Remoil.

 

[stchman]

Smoking? Only from hot barrels when a lot of ammo is going down the tube. Same as any oil.



RemOil is thin and runny. If it's warm outside, it's too runny for my preferences. It doesn't get that cold here so I prefer a thicker oil so the oil stays on the mechanical parts where I oil it. In fact, I'll use a light grease for the same reason.



Rust could happen here whatever the temperature just like anywhere. I keep guns wiped down with a bit of oil occasionally to keep the humidity at bay.

Personally, the thinness of RemOil isn't a problem for me on the outside of a gun doing rust prevention duties for guns wiped down on a regular basis. Yet, since I don't keep RemOil on hand anymore I don't have any to use for that purpose.

OK, so instead of any facts, I am still getting somebody's "feelings" on that a product isn't doing what it's supposed to just because they feel that way.

I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but all the supposition that Rem Oil doesn't lube "just cause" is laughable.

Do people only think that a lube works only if the metal shines brightly?

 

[stchman]

I used Remoil ever since WD40 was deemed not to be good for guns. I have never had any problems with Remoil. I do store my guns muzzle down so any excess oil will run onto a rag in the bottom of my safe. Most of my guns have a wood stock. None of them have any issues with soft or punky wood. I changed to SafariLand CLP a couple years ago. CLP is about the same price as Remoil and I feel that CLP is a better product. If I couldn't get CLP I would go back to Remoil.

The guy over at Box O' Truth lubes all his guns with WD40 and swears by it.

So you "feel" CLP is a better product, how? I am not being an SA, I want to really know.

 

[CZ9shooter]

I use different lubes for differnt purposes. Remoil is one of the three products I use regularly (others are 3in1 and whatever cheap grease I have handy). It is great at creeping into nooks and crannies. I actually like that it dries, for areas like firing pin chanels. Makes a good cleaner too. I dont worry that it will thin whatever oil or grease I apply to the area afterward if I dont get it all wiped up.

My own side by side comparisons show that it feels less slick than many oils though. Not neccesarily a bad thing IMO.

I do not like it on slide rails and that sort of thing.

On a side note: I use it quite a bit around the house and garage. Stops squeaks and smoothes hinges instantly, and lasts a very long time. Even though it dries within days, squeaks dont return for years... seriously.

 

[silicosys4]

OK, so instead of any facts, I am still getting somebody's "feelings" on that a product isn't doing what it's supposed to just because they feel that way.

I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but all the supposition that Rem Oil doesn't lube "just cause" is laughable.

Do people only think that a lube works only if the metal shines brightly?

No, I think it stops working after it runs out or evaporates. What makes me think that is a "feeling" I'll admit.
The "feeling" when I cycle the action and dry fire the gun and it "feels" gritty after long term storage using remoil
Then that feeling goes away when I apply a grease based lube, or a thicker clp, and doesn't come back even after extended time in storage.

 

[stchman]

No, I think it stops working after it runs out or evaporates. What makes me think that is a "feeling" I'll admit.
The "feeling" when I cycle the action and dry fire the gun and it "feels" gritty after long term storage using remoil
Then that feeling goes away when I apply a grease based lube, or a thicker clp, and doesn't come back even after extended time in storage.

I have several firearms in my safe that have not been shot in years. If I did take them to the range, I would probably hit some of the moving parts with a quick shot of Rem Oil in the can. Cycle the action and be on my way.

Outside of a cosmoline, I don't think that any of the COTS lubes are a forever protectant.

 

[Rule3]

Most opinions of gun lube is just that, it is anecdotal. Most or many contain Teflon. The carrying agent (oil) evaporates but the Teflon is still there.

This guy did a pretty extensive review of many brands. Yes there are some flaws in his "scientific method" but I still give him credit for doing a very good job.

It was linked to this forum before but here it is again.

You will see from the graph that most popular products all fall in the same range.

It's all snake oil, so pick what you like. I read through the entire article but you can save time and just look at the results/graphs.

http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-products

PS: Look at how well WD 40 and WD 40 Specialist does on both lube and corrosion

 

[Warp]

The guy over at Box O' Truth lubes all his guns with WD40 and swears by it.

So you "feel" CLP is a better product, how? I am not being an SA, I want to really know.

WD-40 isn't really a lube

 

[oneounceload]

Personally, I LIKE RemOil, works well for me

 

[jhb]

I find rem oil useful for somethings and useless for others. I use it depending on the task...but it isn't my favorite. The good news is there is a whole lot of choices. You like what you like.....so be it. Others like what they like. That's all there is to it.

 

[stchman]

Most opinions of gun lube is just that, it is anecdotal. Most or many contain Teflon. The carrying agent (oil) evaporates but the Teflon is still there.

This guy did a pretty extensive review of many brands. Yes there are some flaws in his "scientific method" but I still give him credit for doing a very good job.

It was linked to this forum before but here it is again.

You will see from the graph that most popular products all fall in the same range.

It's all snake oil, so pick what you like. I read through the entire article but you can save time and just look at the results/graphs.

http://ronkulas.proboards.com/thread/274/review-comparison-gun-care-products

PS: Look at how well WD 40 and WD 40 Specialist does on both lube and corrosion

In the end it looks like it was a tie between Froglube and WD40 Specialist for best corrosion protection.

If I spray all my firearms down with a salty solution and sit them outside (which I imagine 100% of THR member don't), I will use either one of those. Since I don't, probably any lube will do the job.

 

[Warp]

In the end it looks like it was a tie between Froglube and WD40 Specialist for best corrosion protection.

If I spray all my firearms down with a salty solution and sit them outside (which I imagine 100% of THR member don't), I will use either one of those. Since I don't, probably any lube will do the job.

Sweat is a bit salty

 

[chicharrones]

OK, so instead of any facts, I am still getting somebody's "feelings" on that a product isn't doing what it's supposed to just because they feel that way.

I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but all the supposition that Rem Oil doesn't lube "just cause" is laughable.

Do people only think that a lube works only if the metal shines brightly?

What tha?

All I stated was my experience and my preference. Like I said earlier, I prefer light engine oil and light grease to RemOil.

Why the hard defense of RemOil when you also use Mobil 1?

I recently started using Mobil 1 as a lube. Since I change my own oil, the residual amounts of oil left in the 6 one quart bottles adds up to almost 8 ounces. I figure I can get lube for virtually free since I dispose of the bottle in the trash.

 

[stchman]

What tha?

All I stated was my experience and my preference. Like I said earlier, I prefer light engine oil and light grease to RemOil.

Why the hard defense of RemOil when you also use Mobil 1?

I am not emotionally attached to Rem Oil. I use Rem Oil to spray down the firearm parts before assembling them. Being an aerosol it gets into all places easily.

I lube the bore with Mobil one as I essentially get the oil for free from the residue left in the bottles. I have about 3 10oz cans of Rem Oil in my collection which should last me for many years.

I use Rem Oil as Mobil 1 is not available in an aerosol.