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I'm in Ulster County. Mine took exactly three months to come through. This was 2008-2009: I applied in December and received it in March. I've heard it's a lot slower lately, though.
Why are NYS Pistol Permits back logged?
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I'm in Ulster County. Mine took exactly three months to come through. This was 2008-2009: I applied in December and received it in March. I've heard it's a lot slower lately, though.
Of course they do. I didn't mean to imply by "active duty" that I was referring to anything other than current LEO's (as opposed to retired LEO's). I thought that would have been clear, but on re-reading I can see how one can come to the unintended conclusion that you did.
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He was referring to active law enforcement officers, not military.
Got it. Around here, "active duty" kicks in the military mindset. We are the home of Fort Drum, and it is a big part of our lives. MY mistake. The Law Enforcement Officer permits do go more quickly, probably because most of the work is already completed. I obtained my permit before I became a LEO, so I don't know about that. Pistol permits are usually processed much faster just before elections. They slow down a lot after one is held. I just can't get over the military guys in NY not being able to have handguns. Or at least not having a process that helps them get better treatment. I know guys here who did two and three bids in Iraq, only to be barred from having a handgun in NYS. Seems sooo foolish. I am so happy our politicians, guys like Chuck Schumer, protecting us from the best our nation has.
I retired, in 1993, from the NYPD and because at that time I resided in NYC, I was issue a NYC carry permit on the day I retired. Those NYPD police officers who resided outside NYC had to surrender their handguns until they obtained handgun permits from the counties they lived in. No permit, no handguns. I've never met, or heard of, any retired police officers in New York state who didn't require a handgun permit, only a badge, to keep their pistols as a retiree. When I moved to Columbia County in upstate New York, I was required to obtain a Columbia County pistol permit or I would have to surrender my handguns.
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LEOSA was passed in 2004.
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Who needs a pistol? You can't shoot a deer with it. About 50 children die a day when they find their dads handgun. No evil handguns.
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Now you've done it!
ttolhurst, can you enlighten me as to what LEOSA is, I don't know, with regards to county handgun permits in New York State issue to retired police officers in New York State as defined in the penal law?
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LEOSA, or the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, is a federal law which permits qualified active law enforcement officers and qualified retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons nationwide.
Wikipedia can tell you more.
Wikipedia can tell you more.
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The backlog exists because they'd rather you not own a handgun. We're lucky that long guns aren't restricted on the same level.
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Hmm. I can't see how the State of New York or any county thereof could require a LEO to obtain a county permit in order to carry a firearm under LEOSA. And as far as I can tell (I am not a LEO), there is no such thing as a LEOSA permit.
There is a permit that retired police officers need to carry nationwide, I've seen it. A retired police officer, I know, applied for one in Rockland County, New York. It requires annual qualification and the type of handgun you qualify with, either revolver or semi-automatic, is indicated on the permit. So he brought both a revolver and semi-automatic to qualify with and his permit indicates both. The permit doesn't list any handguns by make, model or serial number, only that he is qualified to carry, nationwide, either a revolver or semi-automatic. This permit needs annual renewal. I believe he is still required to maintain his New York State county handgun permit which has nothing to do with nationwide carry.
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Are you sure that's not just certification of the retired officer's qualification and retired status?
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Well. let me put it this way, how does one prove, in another state, he is authorized to carry a handgun. I don't have a shield, or badge, they're NYPD property and surrendered upon retirement. I believe in most, if not all, law enforcement agencies, one does not keep his shield upon retirement. Even so, a shield doesn't mean the person displaying it is a retired police officer, it could have been stolen or it could be a replica. The only two documents I carry, that indicates I'm a retired police officer is the last NYPD photo I.D. I was issued when I was still active, and that shows a 1996 expiration, and my current Columbia County unrestricted pistol license that has "RETIRED POLICE OFFICER" on it.
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That is specific to your PD. Most issue a "retired" badge and retired ID to LEO's upon retirement.
I see them every day...
Of course, most active duty guys get their permits anyway, so they don't lose their handguns if they get jammed up... so it's largely a moot point other than the ability to carry across state lines.
That is specific to your PD. Most issue a "retired" badge and retired ID to LEO's upon retirement.
I see them every day...
Of course, most active duty guys get their permits anyway, so they don't lose their handguns if they get jammed up... so it's largely a moot point other than the ability to carry across state lines.
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