Why are people dumping their Springfield XDS

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I lurk and participate in 3 state and local gun forums and there are at least 12 people looking to trade or sell their springfield XDS, both in 9mm and .45. Far more than any other brand or make, ever Glocks which are more available. Am I missing something here? What is going on with the XDS?
 
The post recall XDS guns are just fine. My XDs-45 is my main CCW and it has been 100% reliable since I got it. It will feed and shoot pretty much anything except the lowest power target loads.

It tends to be a bit "energetic" when shooing full power SD ammo but still manageable. The only down side is the 5+1 round capacity with the flush fitting mags, however an extra in the pocket fixes that right quick.

The only reason I can think is that those that don't like them are getting rid of them due to the limited capacity, but what do you want from a 45acp auto that is this small?
 
I just bought a Post Recall one and have gotten 450 rnds thru it without 1 malfunction. I love it. Had one that I owned before the recall, sent it in for the recall, and it never was right after that. It had Failure to go back into full battery, and FT feed issues, which it NEVER had before. Traded it in on a Post recall, and good to go!
 
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So here is the what is going on in my not so humble opinion.

The platform is absolutely one of the smallest and most manageable .45 acp platforms you can get. As for a 9mm its also pretty small but not the ultimate. The 45 is virtually unrivaled.

Many people got them with the original trigger. That mechanism has a theoretical flaw. I think there were one or two cases where the pistol double fired. There could be more, but I am aware of the one or two double firings.

So Springfield did a recall. And the fix was a trigger that was not as nice as the original. Perhaps a wee bit grittier, or longer, but not the original great trigger they came with.

Many people, having fired hundreds of rounds using the original trigger, found the replacement to be lousy. So they are selling them.

New trigger or not it the .45's are pretty much in a league of their own. It is not a target pistol. Its meant to be carried. You shoot 100 rounds and it will make your hand sore (macho men and women excepted).

If you want a spectacular .45 carry platform this is it. For a 9 I might shop.
 
M&P Shield....

Id opt for the new "no thumb safety" Shield 9mm. It's safe, there are a lot of holsters, gear & after market parts for it.
The S-A XDs is nice. I like the new 4.0" version in .45acp but I'm in no huge rush to buy it.

I never shot any XDs models but I've heard mostly + reviews.
The S-A offer of 3 free pistol magazines & a new holder make it tempting but Id still get a new S&W Shield.
 
For me the trigger was fine post recall, it's the capacity. The xds is too heavy for pocket carry in my opinion and if I have to belt carry I want more rounds.
 
I think that Coltdriver has nailed it.

I am one of the many folks that got their XDs45 back from the Upgrade with a horrrrrible trigger-action to replace the sweet one with which it started ... but ...

... I installed a ~$20 PRP Spring Set (and polish internals while I was in there) and the trigger is better now than when I first bought it. :D
 
I liked everything about mine except that after three trips to Springfield, and 5/600 rounds, it still wouldn't run. Sold the POS and got a Glock 36. Couldn't be happier.
 
I am one of the MANY that sent my XDs 45 in for the recall, got it back and the trigger is just right, always was. I shoot my reloads and several different SD loads and never a stoppage. I`ve had it almost two yrs now, it`s my EDC.

I want a second one so, I hope, IF, people ARE dumping them maybe I can get one, at a really good price. :)
 
I belong to dozens of BST facebook groups, and there's always plenty of XDS' listed.

I have three friends with pre recall units that have had the recall preformed and they all still love theirs. I really like the feel and why these guys shoot, I played with a 4" version a few weeks ago and really liked the way it handled.

IMHO in 45, this is a little too much pistol for some of the owners. Or maybe like myself they just don't care for the grip safety???
 
I have the XDS .45 and love it. Unfortunately I'm thinking of trading it in. I have far too many FTF's and FTE's and do not carry it for that reason. Right now, it's at a local gun smith who can hopefully correct these issues. If he can't, I'll send it to Springfield one last time. There are other guns I'd rather use as range guns, so if I can't rely on this as a CC piece, it's time to trade it in.
 
I'd hazard a guess that the XD's grip safety is only a hindrance to folk who do not train regularly and who therefore have not developed the muscle memory you need for consistent grip acquisition.
 
It's the gun-of-the-month syndrome. Everyone goes gaga over the latest and greatest new wonder gun and rushes out to buy one. After they have it a while they realized it is basically the same as the other guns they have. About that time a newer, latest and greatest gun comes along and they sell off the old gun to finance the new.

I submit for proof, the frenzy over the HK VP9. I recently handled one, it's nice enough, but I don't see where it is $250 nicer than my Glock.
 
Because, Glock. :D

I'm kidding.



+1 to the "flavor of the month" as my guess. The XDS was the new, great, thing, now it's something else.

I have a list of things I don't like about the XD, and as a result I don't own one anymore, but they are great guns there is no doubt.
 
For the same reason that Old Doctors buy a 911 turbo Carrera, and go back to the leasing company a month or sooner, and want to trade them in for a Mercedes or Bentley,
In order to accomplish their goal, the cars are a bit less comfortable than their counterparts. Some people think that they will handle a small 45, or 500 + HP sports car with a few days of driving or shooting under their belt. Their wives feel differently when they have to bend down to enter and exit, and not be able to talk on their phone due to an engine behind their head
Not so, they are made for one purpose only, one for speed and the other for defending your life. Not for comfort.
I compare the Porshe because I had 5 of them and my friend owned a leasing Co, that specialized in exotic cars, his wife was manager of the largest Porshe dealership in the USA, In NJ at the time. More people would return those cars and take a 30 thousand dollar beating to get out of the lease than any other.
The same with a small powerful handgun that looks cool and is in all the magazines, Gotta have one, until they try to use it as a weekly shooter and put 2-300 rounds down range. Bad move for all but experienced gun handlers who wouldn't do that to begin with , and we know not to do that anyway. You run a few hundred when you break it in, then clean it and shoot it a occasionally maybe a box of 50 at most. It's a carry gun and weapon of last resort, not a target gun.
Mine is dead on accurate and I shoot enough similar guns to be spot on with it at 25 yards. I don't shoot it often, when I do it's used for what I bought it for, draw fire reload fire reload fire, and put it away if results are good and go to a more comfortable range toy.
We have a lot of new shooters who read way too much about the newest gun of the month. XDS is an excellent carry gun period, it's the 1911 you could never fit in your pocket.
Much like the S&W 340PD that tons of guys bought and bitched about from day 1. That's why Buds blew the out last year at a really low price, around 5 and change, people stopped buying them after they read enough criticism. What they expected a 357 to feel like coming out of a 13 oz gun is beyond me, But the spent a thousand to find out that they couldn't hit the barn after shot number 1.
It takes a gun handler who shoots revolvers to shoot it accurately. Slickguns had them for 700 ish last week, almost bought one, but for me I already have enough heart stoppers.
Carry what you shoot well, not what your read about or think is what you should have, it won't do you a dam bit of good if you can't follow up on your shot because you are afraid of the recoil and pull your shot subconsciously.
Not meant to hurt anyone's feelings , just is the truth that people shy off from saying, like a 454 or 460, you need some strength to fire these guns, like forearms that arm wrestlers have, or technique learned over time with heavy loads.
You may be able to shoot it, but can you shoot it fast and accurate.
 
I RELUCTANTLY sold mine for one main reason. My thumb knuckle bone [with my natural grip] kept engaging the slide release causing it to not lock open on the last round and I just couldn't abide it.

I have a Shield that will arive early this week. If it hadn't been for the placement of the slide release, I'd still have the XDs.
 
As someone who works at a dealer PT, I suspect they were the flavor of the month when they first appeared and Shields and even LC9's were in short supply. We sold everyone we got. BUT, add in the recall, the availability of everything right now, and the reliability issues, along with a price premium of $200 to its competition you have a recipe for slowing sales.

Personally, there is no way I would pay $200 more than a Shield for the 9mm version (I have no idea how Springfield justifies the premium price on the 9). And no way I'd pay a hundred more than the far more reliable and shootable .45 the Glock 30S.

Springfield pushed the envelop with that gun in .45, they just don't have enough margin of error with the 3.3" bbl in .45 (remember smaller 1911's also have reliability issues) to make a firearm that is consistently reliable.
 
OK, i spoke to an acquaintance who is selling XDS and he told me that it's defenetly the post recall trigger. He told me that he could live with the 2% FTF FTE stoppages but the new trigger on his .45 is just a deal breaker for him.
 
Fella's;

I don't know why other people have dumped their's, but I do know why my son dumped his.

Fairly late last year he shot a deer and didn't make a DRT kill on it. It was down but alive & needed a mercy shot. He drew his XD & had a FTF. Tried again, same result. Shot the deer again with the rifle.

The next day we started to diagnose the problem's cause. It wound up to be gloves, here in Outer Montana it's not at all unusual to need effective winter gloves on during hunting. The grip safety would not allow the gun to fire when he was wearing more than a lightweight glove. The XD, which he had carried for about 8 or so years, is gone & has been replaced with a CZ. After having the CZ for almost a year now, he reports that he's much happier with it.

900F
 
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I've got a 4" XDs in 9mm and the original 3.3" in .45 and I'll hold onto both.

After cleaning the firing pin and putting a few hundred rounds through my .45, it's run just fine. Same for the 9mm. The grip safety doesn't bother me, i actually like it. The XDs is what I wanted in a pistol. for around $500, it's a compact single stack semi-auto that I can comfortably conceal and shoot...... I was happy when they came out, disappointed at the recall, but am again happy with the pistols.

certainly there was some hype when they first came out, but I'm still a believer.
 
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