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More important question, would be "Why is the AR15 the "sacrificial lamb" of gun control?"
Not that we're going to sacrifice it, of course.
Not that we're going to sacrifice it, of course.
More important question, would be "Why is the AR15 the "sacrificial lamb" of gun control?"
+1 When it comes to anti-personnel a shotgun gun is viewed a defensive firearm at best while a rifle is viewed as an offensive firearm.I believe we are overlooking two major factors: Range and penetration. Shotguns are great for short range against bare or thinly covered flesh. However, beyond 75 yards or up against even a soft vest, shotguns aren't as useful as a rifle. Therefore, shotguns seem less of a threat to government. Many people also tend to keep only "hunting" or trap loads around for their shotguns, instead of buckshot and slugs, which further decreases the potential lethality to human targets, especially armored ones.
Also, as stated before, the typically limited magazine capacity tends to affect the perception of these weapons.
Shotguns are not going to be protected; they are just at the bottom of the list to take away.
Divide and conquer
you are confused because you come to this discussion using logic and facts where the gun grabbers use emotions and feelings that's why there's no convincing them.While all of these points are valid, I'm still confused as to why the gun grabbers have never gone after 'evil black shotguns'?
I mean, we all know that an 'assault weapon' is functionally no different from any other semiauto rifle, so why haven't they tried to ban, say, pistol-grip-only shotguns?
I have a Mossberg 500 with black synthetic furniture and a pistol grip, and these are featured in movies far more than even the Desert Eagle.
I'm certainly not complaining, but it does surprise me that they haven't gone after 'assault shotguns'.
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More important question, would be "Why is the AR15 the "sacrificial lamb" of gun control?"
What you mean you cannot hear yours singing from the corner of the room???
Am I evil? Yes I am.
Am I evil? I am man, yes I am.
Which is exactly my point.you are confused because you come to this discussion using logic and facts where the gun grabbers use emotions and feelings that's why there's no convincing them.
Sega 12 or Sega 20?
Well, that's obvious; the AR15 has closest resemblance and function to the main arm of our military, and deep down, Statists fear the citizenry having parity with the military/authorities/regime. Makes sense they'd start with the most "militia-usable" weapon (despite what the Miller ruling makes plain as day ).More important question, would be "Why is the AR15 the "sacrificial lamb" of gun control?"
We've certaintly established that anti's see shotguns as inherently less threatening (i.e. versions as equally "tacticool" as AR15s/AKs aren't as vilified, even though they were present/used at the last two mass shootings), my original question was why that is the case. I think you're dead on about stereotypes:Yes, I suppose ol' farmer Zeke with his antique sxs is what comes to mind when antis think 'shotgun'.
Not this one. Beat up, scratched up, carved up (PD issue number), water damaged, cracked forearm, and crummy buttpad (fixable, but still). I could maybe save it for something as junky as a homebrew tube-gun build one day. Both sight beads broken off, and vent-rib dented. I figure if I can give it a new life (let alone a unique one) I'm doing it a favor (don't worry, I'm no bubba!) It was definitely worth the 150$ I paid for it in this marketTo be honest, I prefer the top version...
Just like walnut stocks I guess.
Shotgunning is the millionaire sport with membership in a clay target range typical of the high mucky mucks. However many of them have contempt for anybody else's rights besides theirs.
Try looking up some high end O/U shotguns. They have them of all prices up to around the value of a sports car.
well someone thought the SPA's/LAW's and Street Sweeper were scary enough I can only guess they were viewed as too MilitaryWhich is exactly my point.
If we assume that they are running on emotion rather than logic, why haven't they come after our scary-looking, not-suitable-for-hunting pgo shotguns?
Seriously? Wow, talk about not getting it and spreading BS.
BTW, there are some shotguns that go for over $250,000, but that's something else entirely. So folks who shoot clay targets are mucky mucks?
It is people like you that sem to be the issue, you can't seem to get the fact that some gun owners have more money and use theirs for fun as well. So what? Every gun owner is affected, not just the black plastic crowd.perhaps you ned t learn more. About these " mucky mucks" you seem to hate so much