Why are XDs so heavy?
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SC_1911Shooter
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haha...I'll still weigh it if you want me to...just let me know if you want 13+1 or just 13.
Gryffydd
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If those 6oz that may or may not even exist are more important to you than all the other differences between the designs, maybe you should get an LCP or something. Either that or do like Sam says and benchpress a pillow every now and then 
highorder
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For sake of accuracy, all weights should be taken with an empty magazine.
Ammo varies too much for a fair comparison.
Also, 6 ounces is 170 grams; not insignificant.
Ammo varies too much for a fair comparison.
Also, 6 ounces is 170 grams; not insignificant.
Bass Ackwardz
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I have both Glocks and SA XD's. Both function perfectly, I like the XD's just a tiny bit better. For competiton I use the Glock, for carry and home defense I use the XD. I think its easy to like and use both. If I had to choose just one, it would be a tough choice, but my XD would be staying with me.
Bass
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The weight savings, ergonomics, and the fact it isn't so top heavy puts the Glock one up on the XD. I think as far as reliability goes, its pretty close with the Glock edging the XD. Accuracy is a toss up. It depends more on the shooter than the tool with a defensive handgun.
Sam1911
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If the weight difference between different loadings of the same cartridge outweigh the difference in gun weight...
I guess it's relative, but when someone is complaining that one defensive pistol is SO MUCH HEAVIER than another...by six ouces?
Last time I checked my carry guns weighed between 39 and 42 oz, unloaded. I guess I'm just not used to feeling a 6 oz difference, plus or minus. 20 oz. or 26...both feel like squirt guns.But I do like my xDM, it just needs 19+1 loaded up to feel "serious."
LOL!
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6 oz. to me is important when I'm carrying, that's almost half a pound. When dressing light, that's a substantial amount. Just my .02
highorder
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No need to poke fun Sam.
I've had weight on the brain since I found out my budy's SR9 weighs nearly the same loaded with 17 rounds as my P6 does loaded with 8...
These verified numbers started me thinking:
Weights
Sig P6 32.34 oz Loaded 8 rounds 115gr
1911 44.71 oz Loaded 8 rounds 230gr
Ruger SR9 33.69 oz Loaded 17 rounds 115gr
Glock 17 31.91 oz Loaded 17 rounds 115gr
Sig 226 34.10 oz Loaded 15 rounds 115gr
I've had weight on the brain since I found out my budy's SR9 weighs nearly the same loaded with 17 rounds as my P6 does loaded with 8...
These verified numbers started me thinking:
Weights
Sig P6 32.34 oz Loaded 8 rounds 115gr
1911 44.71 oz Loaded 8 rounds 230gr
Ruger SR9 33.69 oz Loaded 17 rounds 115gr
Glock 17 31.91 oz Loaded 17 rounds 115gr
Sig 226 34.10 oz Loaded 15 rounds 115gr
I run in light running shoes on the other hand so I understand the rationale. On the other hand I like heavier, solidly weighted guns to land my point of aim quicker. Glocks seem to plasticky to me, I like the SS mags better. If you find a gun 1 lb lighter, go for it. I wont!
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Yes six oz aint a whole lot. but the Glock 19 weighs 20 oz. a boy you feel it on your ankel to ad 25%+ more weight for a smoother trigger pull dont make sense
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Sam1911
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You're right, of course. Just struck me as funny.
The only very serious comment that I'll make about it is that the weights are close enough that I would decide between the two entirely based on my ability to shoot well with the specific guns. If I shot the light one faster and more accurately, I'd carry that. If I shot the (slightly!) heavier one better, I'd carry it instead.
I do like the xD platform quite a bit more than the Glock, but I'd still give them both a try in compact form before choosing.
-Sam
If 6oz is such a concern, perhaps you should carry 115gr bullets to save weight.
Not sure why people whine about such minor things. Try carrying a government 1911 and being on the small side...it can be done and it won't kill you.
"Man up"
Not sure why people whine about such minor things. Try carrying a government 1911 and being on the small side...it can be done and it won't kill you.
"Man up"
Safety First
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I carry an XD45 compact for hours at a time in a Milt Sparks VM2. I have back problems but still find it amazingly comfortable to carry. For me, I think the VM2 is what makes the XD feel comfortable. YMMV..
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REAPER4206969
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Wrong. <---That's the way you're doing it.
Step away from the kool-aid fellers...
Maybe I should have mentioned that I've owned and sold four Glocks (two 19s, a 27, and lastly a 26) in the past 4 years. I've also owned and sold two XDs (a 4" .40 and a 4" .45). I actually prefer H&K kool-aid. Tastes better.
Read post #19. PAPACHUCK can educate you on why the XD is BUILT tougher. If you don't like it, maybe some more kool-aid will make you feel better.
6oz can be significant, depending on the application. For a night stand gun, 6oz doesn't mean anything. However, for an IWB carry gun 6oz is everything..at least to me it is. I'd rather be comfortable throughout the day and not have a sore hip or sciatic nerve pain.
No kidding. With all the pics of Kaboomed Glocks all over the web I would say the burden of proof is on Glock. Until I see thousands of XDs blown up I can let them say they are tough without whining for them to "prove it".
PS. Before you post pics of kaboomed XDs remember I can counter them by a large margin so please don't waste our time. Besides, I think the posted who said they were tougher was referring to the construction of the weapon. In his opinion they are tougher BUILT. He doesn't need to PROVE IT. That is childish.
PS. Before you post pics of kaboomed XDs remember I can counter them by a large margin so please don't waste our time. Besides, I think the posted who said they were tougher was referring to the construction of the weapon. In his opinion they are tougher BUILT. He doesn't need to PROVE IT. That is childish.
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REAPER4206969
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The reason you could "counter them by a large margin" is because Glock's are one of the most widely used handguns in the word, where as the HS2000 is hardly used by anyone.
So it is "childish" to request that he back up his statement? Is it "childish" to ask for torture test videos, combat usage reports or results from military and police trials? The Glock has passed every test a combat handgun could be entered and the results are easily found as proof. The HS2000 has not proven itself at all.
REAPER4206969
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I'm not wound up. I just want to see some evidence.
Why? People are free to have their opinions. Nobody has to prove anything to you. If you don't agree with it then post YOUR opinion and move one.
Yes it is. 99% of all the Glock "torture test" are pure hype. They were done absent any competition so the sheeple could assume that is the mighty Glock can do it no one else can.
Also, Check with the Croation military. I'm sure they can provide the "combat usage" reports you want. lol.
The fact you see more failed Glocks because there are MORE Glocks doesn't negate the fact they CAN and DO fail miserably.
If you do your own leg work BTW, you will find MANY torture test with the XDs. Here is one I found in about 10 secs.
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php
Yes it is. 99% of all the Glock "torture test" are pure hype. They were done absent any competition so the sheeple could assume that is the mighty Glock can do it no one else can.
Also, Check with the Croation military. I'm sure they can provide the "combat usage" reports you want. lol.
The fact you see more failed Glocks because there are MORE Glocks doesn't negate the fact they CAN and DO fail miserably.
If you do your own leg work BTW, you will find MANY torture test with the XDs. Here is one I found in about 10 secs.
http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php
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REAPER4206969
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Are you suggesting there was no competition in the various military and police trials?
The catastrophic failures commonly cited by Glock haters are due to improperly reloaded ammunition.
Enachos
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Sam1911,
LOL! You pretty much nailed it. 6 oz. really isn't that much more weight. And if noticeable, it's not something you can't get used to right away. I prefer glock simply cuz i like the ergonomics but the XD is a very good handgun also.
LOL! You pretty much nailed it. 6 oz. really isn't that much more weight. And if noticeable, it's not something you can't get used to right away. I prefer glock simply cuz i like the ergonomics but the XD is a very good handgun also.
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