ljnowell
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Because the model 10 is a K frame. The 7 shot 686+ is an L frame.
Why aren't there more revolvers with 7-round cyclinders?
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Because the model 10 is a K frame. The 7 shot 686+ is an L frame.
Driftwood Johnson
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Really? I've been shooting revolvers for over 40 years, and I never heard of that particular weakness.
Some of us just are not interested in 7, 8, or even 10 shot revolvers. As far as I am concerned, a revolver should be a six shooter.
Period.
There can be issues with higher capacity cylinders too, If for whatever reason you experiance sticky extraction it'll be worse the more rounds you put in the cylinder. I sold a Taurus 9 shot 22 for this reason and mom n dad's 8 shot 317 has the same problem if you shoot high velocity stuff in it it takes a hammer to get the emptys out my 6 shot model 34 has no problems with HV 22s.
jad0110
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Actually, with the 686 L Frame, the 7-shot cylinder is stronger than the 6-shot version. The weak point isn't between the chambers in many revolvers; in guns with the cylinder stop notch located directly above/adjacent to a chamber, that is the weakest point on the cylinder. I have a cylinder from a S&W Model 15 (6 shot, notches adjacent to the chambers) where the chamber bulged outward towards the cylinder stop, at that very point. Probably a handloading SNAFU on the part of the prior owner that I didn't catch until after I bought the gun (oops). It was fairly subtle, but it was there and it caused spent shells in that chamber to stick. In 6 shot K and L Frames, the cylinder stop notches are located directly above the chambers. However, on the 7 shot x86 and x81 (as well as 5 shot J frames and the 5 shot .44 Spl L Frame S&W 696), the notches are located between chambers in the beefiest part of the cylinder.
Incidentally, Ruger offsets their cylinder stop notches on all their guns.
420Stainless
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I got a 686+ mainly because it was available at a decent price. It was used with no lock and a 3" barrel. I absolutely love it, but would have purchased the same with a six shot cylinder if that was what it was. I like the extra round, but it is not really a selling feature for me.
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Never thought of that. Good point.
06
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My son had a Taurus 8 357 7" barrel that was great. So good a thief wanted it more.
only need one shot
I have shot revolvers for over 40 years and have never felt the need for more than six shots. I shoot frequently and if I cant hit what I am aiming for on the first shot the second one will get it, six is always plenty for me.
Dont intend getting in to a firefight. If you are getting in to a firefight that you need more than six, you should have got the heck out a long time before it comes to that.
I have carried daily for 40 years and have only had to pull once and luckily did not have to fire. But I assure you. had I needed to fire, It would have been exactly where I intended it to go.
Never felt the need for more than six and never will
I have shot revolvers for over 40 years and have never felt the need for more than six shots. I shoot frequently and if I cant hit what I am aiming for on the first shot the second one will get it, six is always plenty for me.
Dont intend getting in to a firefight. If you are getting in to a firefight that you need more than six, you should have got the heck out a long time before it comes to that.
I have carried daily for 40 years and have only had to pull once and luckily did not have to fire. But I assure you. had I needed to fire, It would have been exactly where I intended it to go.
Never felt the need for more than six and never will
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Ummmm...because the M-10 was previously the M&P, which was previously something else...which was designed in the late 1800s...as a six-shot revolver.
The frame size is what it is (and was), and you cannot stuff 12 pounds of poop in a 10-pound bag.
If you want 7 rounds, you will need to step up to the L-frame, which has a large enough window to hold the larger cylinder necessary to hold seven .357 rounds.
Likewise, if you want eight rounds, you will need to step up to an N-frame.
Simple math.
I started a thread today about the Taurus 617. It is small for a 7 shot 357
I had one and commented on your thread. From what I remember, there was nothing small about it.
I have a LCR, SP101, and Colt DS and now the 617. It is shorter and not as tall as the LCR. It is heavier and wider though. It might not fit as easy in your pocket as a 5 shot J frame 38, but it is smaller than a 5 shot SP101.
If it turns out to be reliable after a few range trips, then I see no reason why it wouldn't be better to carry than a SP101. For a 7 shot 357 it is definitely small
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