Why do Air Marshalls have HKs?

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Federal agencies also like to trade in their weapons every 5-10 years so if you don't like what they use now, just wait a while.

It seems like the local agencies do that as well with a lot of equipment. Looking around the area I've lived at for 15 years, I see that the squads have gone from Chevy to Ford and now to Dodge.

Are LE agencies big money for the companies? I mean, they can't possibly charge what they charge us for the guns and expect to get the contracts so they have to give a significant quantity cut.
 
"Are LE agencies big money for the companies? I mean, they can't possibly charge what they charge us for the guns and expect to get the contracts so they have to give a significant quantity cut"

Big money in the form of advertisement. People will buy what their police carry. Using the cars as an example - when Chevy came out with the 1991 Chevy Impalas it was a dude. No one was buying it. Chevy took an aggressive marketing approach and was cutting heck of deals to LE, cab companies, and large fleets just to get the 91 out there. Talking to Chevy execs at the time they admitted that going from the boxy Impalas to the whale was too radical of a change for the market. They hoped that by getting the 91 out there in fleets where the public could see it more often then the public would start buying. Changing cars is a bit different tho than changing guns. Body styles change, drive trains change, sizes differ, engines change. So every year a manufacture will change styling or structure a bit which might be OK with the Mom and Pop consumer but which doesn't work for a LE squad.
Same with guns. Find what a large agency near you carries and that make/model will have some sales appeal in the local market. That's why those companies can deeply discount to LE, it's advertisement. You'll see it on this forum and others when talking about guns or ammo. How many times have you read someone post that they carry such and such ammo because "X" PD carries it, or that this or that gun must be good because "Z" agencies issues it. It's all about marketing.
 
Do any members know if FAMs use Magsafe Glaser or the "Extreme Shock" Air Freedom loads in .357SIG?

gold dot 125gr hollow point.... ammo #53918

at least thats what it says on the end of the box I got last time I was at the ... uh, I mean the last time A FRIEND OF MINE was at the range for quals...

All FAMs carry the sig P229 in .357sig and FFDOs carry the usp in 40S&W. or at least thats what MY FRIEND says...:scrutiny:
 
the entire "tiny hole rips open the side of the plane" myth is just that... a myth.
Its a BS movie-hollywood thing. You can remove a window and the plane will not explosively decompress. It just doesn't happen that way.

more hollywood crap that people believe.


as for the choice by the FAM service, my guess would be it had more to do with the fact USSS was issued it when the post 9/11 increase of the FAMs happened. Most of the higher ups came from the USSS and sig made them a good deal on the guns, and speer made a slightly reduced recoil load for them... just from what I have heard FROM MY FRIENDS...;)
 
I think that H&K probably has one of the best government marketing campaigns in the business, comparable only to Glock.

Out of curiosity, do the FFDOs get issued a pistol, or are they required to purchase their own? They are essentially private citizens who have obtained a government permission to carry on an airliner that they are piloting, arent they?
 
it is issued by the govt, and they (when on duty inside the confines of the cockpit) are considered federal law enforcement officers. however outside the cockpit any action they take would be that of an ordinary citizen with no LE powers. They are trying to get that changed, but they have a long hard fight as they have no formal LE training and only a week of schooling to qual as an FFDO. They are not authirized to carry the weapon as a CCW outside of their FFDO duties. if they carry its on a personal CCW permit and not their FFDO creds. as an FFDO they are supposed to carry it in a bag until they are inside the plane and the cockpit is secured.

but what people do on their own time is their business.
I personally think it is more dangerous to carry a handgun in a bag with no other handgun for protection then it is to just CCW....

someone grabs the bag off your shoulder and takes off... now they have a gun and you have nothing...
one of the reasons I think women carrying in a purse is stupid and should be outlawed for ccw...
 
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