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Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by revolversrbetter, Apr 18, 2011.

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  1. revolversrbetter

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    ...spanish written on the side?

    What's up with that?!?
     
  2. Grunt Medic TXARNG

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    The 4-line trademark on my mid-70's 10-5 M&P reads -

    MADE IN USA
    MARCAS REGISTRADAS
    SMITH & WESSON
    SPRINGFIELD, MASS.

    'Marcas Registradas' is Latin and not Spanish.

    In May, 1948, Smith & Wesson changed their simple "Made In USA" rollmark to a more complex four line bilingual version. This was to combat the many Spanish counterfiet revolvers being produced.

    For collectors, the 4 line rollmark indicates a definite post war gun.
     
  3. SkippySanchez

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    It is Latin, not Spanish, and it translates to registered trademark
     
  4. DickM

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    On the assumption that you guys aren't kidding . . .

    Marcas Registradas is most certainly not Latin - (1) the "as" ending appears only in the accusative plural of first declension nouns, and (2) neither root is used in Latin, AFAIK. Something like "nota fabrica" might be a reasonable approximation of "registered trademark."

    Marcas Registradas does, however, translate directly from the Spanish as "trademark(s)."
     
  5. joed

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    I'm with you 100%, couldn't figure how anyone could say Latin.

    But I'm going to differ with you on the meaning which is, "able to leap tall buildings in a single bound".
     
  6. Seven For Sure

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    Dick M - I thank you for the education!
     
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    I have 2 S&W's one auto and one revolver, and neither one have any kind of Spanish on them.

    The auto says:
    Smith & Wesson
    Springfield, MA USA

    The revolver says:
    SPFLD, MA
    S&W U.S.A
     
  8. SaxonPig

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    Spanish not Latin. The warning in Spanish came about because numerous gun companies in Spain were turning out near copies of S&W products and selling then with deceptive ads to make buyers think they were getting the genuine article. The Spanish was added on advice of counsel so the Spanish speaking gun makers couldn't claim they didn't understand the stamping.
     
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    DickM,
    Did you play the Roman Centurion in Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"?
     
  10. DickM

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    I'm afraid it's only because I'm old enough to have gone to high school when Latin was a required subject, and ended up being pretty good at it. (But not good enough to be qualified to hold the hat and coat of my Dad, who could speak it fluently!).
     
  11. revolversrbetter

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    the "classics" being sold today still have it

    wouldn't you think they'd update it for the times?, I mean, are there any gun makers in Spain still threatening the S&W market opportunity?

    maybe they should change it to Portuguese, to ensure the makers of Taurus can't deny having had the ability to read the trademark
     
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    I guess that would work if Taurus were manufactured in Portugal instead of Brazil.
     
  13. JHK94

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    The language spoken in Brazil is Portuguese, as it used to be a colony of Portugal.
     
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    Heh funny
     
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    If the buyer were duped into buying a Taurus instead of a Smith it is a crap shoot as to whether they would own the superior revolver.
     
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    But isn't that what they speak in Latin America? ;)
     
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    If I may pontificate here for a moment:

    This thread brings to the forefront what most anti-gun liberals love to say about gun owners: that we are all a bunch of uneducated rednecks.

    I especially have to give Grunt Medic some kudos for being so assertive in his incorrect reply, especially when his explanation gives the exact reason the mark is written in Spanish and not Latin.

    I could understand the mark being in latin if the Vatican had been making counterfeit copies, but I would think that one would have heard enough Spanish these days to recognize it. (Isn't our 2nd language now?) It is only slightly easier to comprehend one's not knowing the native language of South America's largest nation.

    Like it or not, many of you have just given cause to keep the liberal stereotype alive.
     
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    branshew,

    Let's not get carried away. There are plenty of gun owners who wouldn't know the difference between a S&W 29 and a Desert Eagle and who post videos of themselves being idiots on Youtube. I think they keep the stereotype alive.

    I do not believe THR is a popular place to for anti-gun liberals to cruise for evidence of ignorace toward guns. Give these guys a break. They're having a productive discussion of a valid topic.
     
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    Uneducated redneck!! I resemble that remark!
     
  20. Manco

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    Well, there is a difference between knowledge and schooling that some of the more uppity anti-gunners fail to recognize.
     
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    Just to add to the confusion, a 4 line address can be found stamped on some S&W
    Model of 1917s that were manufactured prior to 1920 but not sold until the 1950s.

    As for the redneck remarks, I am reminded of a character in a John Ringo novel with 3 PHDs in hard science who says " I would make a redneck joke, but I are one".

    I'm a roofer and gun nut, often I have a red neck from working in the sun. I also qualify for Mensa membership and before I grew up I ran a sales office turning over millions and had an unhealthy interest is computers. What does that make me, a rednerd?
     
  22. SaxonPig

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    I read somewhere that the NRA membership averages 5 years of college.

    Sure, there are some good old boy gun owners, but there are just as many professional people as well. Gun ownership crosses all cultural lines.
     
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    I think Manco has hit it on the head, education today, at least in the social sciences, appears to be about absorbing the prejudices of the faction in power, even in the hard sciences students are required to study some social science units to become 'well rounded individuals'. Welll rounded as in shaped into a round peg to fit nicely into the round hole that society intends to force them into.
    A true well rounded individual such as Jefferson or Edison, capable of free thought, original ideas and actual production would be considered a dangerous radical. Maybe even a redneck?
     
  24. ArchAngelCD

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    I stand corrected, they do speak Portuguese in Brazil... :eek:
     
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    But wouldn't you have to do that in latin?

    That is so wrong. Some of us are educated rednecks

    A degree in Chemistry, and masters in Business, and still drive a Dodge Pickup and shoot a "thuty-thuty"
     
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