Why do gun owners like stupid women?

[pax]

Relayer ~

It says he's doing his own research, not passively sitting by while someone else does it for him.

pax

Mr. Jones, has it ever occurred to you, the world being what it is, that women sometimes prefer not to appear too bright? -- "Ellie," in Starman Jones by Robert Heinlein

 

[dasmi]

Stupid women drive me out of my mind.

 

[Navy joe]

To be clear, I abhor stupid women, stupid men, and stupid dogs. I pity the truly deficient in all and am kind to them, but I do not suffer ignorance or fools lightly. In my first post I was trying to address the practicalities of bringing guns to someone who does not view aquiring guns as a mission in life. I think it is my duty to try to share my knowledge with my family. I would feel pretty damn deficient if I did nothing and then something happened to them they could have averted with a gun or other knowledge I possess.

Men and women are just different and I wish there were more positive associations in society between women and guns. Until then I will collect guns as long as my wife buys new shoes.

 

[Relayer]

pax,

She's asking somebody else, he's asking somebody else.

He's asking a group of more knowledgeable folks, she's asking someone more knowledgeable. Research and research.

 

[AVESguy]

I don't know, Pax, my wife is smarter than me, better looking, makes more money than me, (she's a surgeon), and likes shooting and guns just fine. Never questions any new gun purchase, especially if it's one she likes!!! The only thing that might make me question her intelligence is that she married ME and has stayed married to me for almost 20 years!!

What I have always wanted to know is why so many other smart, really good looking women I've known over the years always seem to get involved with guys who are jerks, who treat them like s#@%, and yet they run after them. Any ideas? Even my wife was engaged to one of these jerks when I met her.


AVESGUY

 

[goon]

Oh yes...
But what if...
The woman is in fact the gun owner, and (here is the real kicker), what if she is smart enough to know what gun she wants?
It does happen.

 

[AVESguy]

And, BTW, The picture of Mr. Ashcroft's wife with a lit up cannon was FANTASTIC. Great woman!!!

I think my wife would do that if she had the opportunity!!! GOTTA LOVE IT!!


AVESGUY

 

[mnrivrat]

Doesn't anyone in the gun world have a girlfriend who can make up her own mind? Who is intelligent enough to do her own research and motivated enough to buy her own equipment?

Yikes ! This thing is moving along fast isn't it !

Well , Pax - maybe one thing you might admitt is that you may be in the minority of women . Maybe even in a "small" minority when it comes not to the indepentant part, but to the independent and thinks guns are a good tool part .

Then there is the chance that a man can be stupid . ( slim chance , but hey ! things happen ! ) lol And maybe that's why they don't give proper credit to where it is due .

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

And, BTW, The picture of Mr. Ashcroft's wife with a lit up cannon was FANTASTIC. Great woman!!!

Thank you! But turnabout is fair play. I once dressed down pax and fivetoes for the same thing.

It's Ashcraft! (with an A)

Thank you very much.

 

[JohnKSa]

I know guys with wives who agree that SD is important and will agree to have a gun and maybe even shoot it some. However, they have no more interest in guns than the average person has in a toilet plunger. They don't want to discuss the features with their husbands, they don't care what kind it is, "just get a good one."

The guys who are shooters, obviously want their wives to like the gun and perhaps enjoy the small amount of shooting they agree to.

Therein lies the dilemma. They're getting ZERO input from their wives, but they know that if they get them something really wrong they're basically ending any chances at getting their wives interesting in shooting. It's not so much that their wives are stupid as that they are totally uninterested.

 

[Stauble]

i dream of a woman who is roughly equal to my intelligence. she doesnt nessisarly have to "like" guns, but doesnt mind them and will go shootin with me wen i ask her. the idea is that we can work together and live in peace.
of couse i havent found any girl that remotely fits this discription
she may be out there somewere

 

[Mnemesyne]

Doesn't anyone in the gun world have a girlfriend who can make up her own mind? Who is intelligent enough to do her own research and motivated enough to buy her own equipment?

Ahem....There are a few of us out there thank you

Husband had no choice in which gun I bought or chose...I went with what I felt comfy, was in my price range and met my needs at that moment....I do however plan on getting a different 45 later on but for now, I like the one I've got

 

[Justin]

Frankly, one of the reasons I started the thread is because I wanted you guys to all tell me that my perceptions were off, that the women in your lives were just as capable of making adult decisions about hardware as you guys all are.

The last two women I've dated have been this way. At the beginning, one would ask for my input and I would give it, but she is completely capable of going out, evaluating her needs, and weighing her personal pros and cons of a particular model better than I could.

The other, well, she knew what she liked, and had good taste, so who am I to argue?

 

[Graystar]

Why do gun owners like stupid women?

Because gun owners prefer simple design and reliable operation

 

[Shorts]

Well I picked "I don't like stupid women, and I am female".

They're very annoying. They think being helpless is cute.

But hey, with them around, my kind looks so much more attractive, right???

 

[Taurus 66]

OK you want it?!!! IT SUCKED TONIGHT ALRIGHT???

 

[Shorts]

From Pax's original post:

The fora are filled with the usual quotient of earnest fellows asking what guns to buy for their women.

Doesn't anyone in the gun world have a girlfriend who can make up her own mind? Who is intelligent enough to do her own research and motivated enough to buy her own equipment?

 

[Arkady]

Mine isn't stupid... she's bipolar, and borderline psychotic sometimes, but all of the lights are on upstairs.

 

[coonan357]

I don't like my women to be stupid /dumb , I just want mine to have a class01 FFl but seriously the reason I asked what peoples opinions on what guns are out there for my S/O (when I had one ) was I don't have all the cash in the world to be buying this and that ,there not shoes ,I want to be able to start with a general idea what otherguys have gotten or there spouses have gotten and liked or are avalible , the other reason is i am the mechanical person in the family and shes the artisic one in the family we don't think alike (the one didn't think at all!!) like someone said would you trust one of us to paint and decorate your house ?? you know whay it would look like gunracks on the wall plywood table in the kitchen so we could reload and clean, mossyoak wallcoverings not to mention bedcoverings . I had to call my mom to ask what type of paint to use to paint my living room ! (found out eggshell) but men think different then women, where one sex might be better at something , the other might be better at that ones lack of knowledge , mine is dressing she can be hotter than daylights and look smashing where I would look like a janitor ( hey my uniforms are comfortable ) but she picks out my clothes and dresses me so I am presentable . I on the otherhand fix the car so the squeak disapears and remove the 1/2 inch of paper from the dashboard that she put there trying to get rid of it . if it weren't for our differences i think our creator would have made us like worms to look alike and be able to multiply without another .

 

[c_yeager]

Yes, this problem is obviously rooted in the fact that men are ignorant asses who are unable to understand women and has nothing to do with the possibility that women like to have some guidance before entering into unfamilier territory.

Perhaps a better question would be to ask; why do women prefer men who will tell them what to do?

 

[CatsDieNow]

Back when I was all ignorant about guns...when I decided I wanted one, I asked the guy I thought knew the most about guns to reccommend one.

Like a good little THR/TFL member, he told me that I should choose my own gun. Which, quite frankly, wasn't too much help, since I was actually looking for him to narrow the selection of hundreds of guns of various forms and calibers down to a few options based on what I wanted.

We eventually went to the big Indy 1500 gun show and he would point out guns he thought I might like and I would hold them while he described benefits and features. Some I could tell right away were bad for me (like anyting with Glock in the name). That was good - a handful of options and no chance of ending up with a gold plated Double Eagle when all I really wanted was a .22 plinking pistol.

Sometimes we just need an information filter and someone we trust to fufill that role.

Oh, and for the record, I am female, and tend not to get along with most women. Most of them just don't think like I do - I have never understood that whole going to the restroom in groups thing, for example. Weird.

 

[Control Group]

Look at the other replies on this thread and tell me: are your wife and daughter in the majority?

They might be - you couldn't tell by reading THR; there's enormous sampling error.

Which do you suppose people are more likely to post: "my wife bought a gun yesterday," or "what gun should I buy my wife?"

If the wife in question is an accomplished and enthusiastic gunny, the former just isn't news. Worse, if the former is news, odds are good that the wife wasn't previously interested, so even that post is going to fall into your "stupid woman" category. If the husband in question is curious about the latter, though, THR is a good place to ask.

Meanwhile, in this thread, the phraseology of the question and answers are pretty much guaranteed to elicit a defensive response from people who have posted questions about guns for girlfriends or wives, while people who haven't posted the question because their wives know just as much about guns as they do won't have anything like the incentive to respond to this thread.

*shrug*

 

[XLMiguel]

this Explains It

A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife turning back and forth, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.

I'd like to be six again, she replied, still looking in the mirror.

On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then took her to Six Flags theme park. What a day! He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide, the Wall of Fear, the Screaming Monster Roller Coaster, everything there was. Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down.

He then took her to a McDonald's where he ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a chocolate shake. Then it was off to a movie, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&M's. What a fabulous adventure! Finally, she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed exhausted.

He leaned over to his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked, 'Well Dear, what was it like being six again?'

Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed. I meant my dress size, you dumb ass!

The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening, he is gonna get it wrong.

But Seriously, I have no use for 'stupid' women, as I have a hard enough time thinking for my self and I'm lazy, so I have no desire to do the thinking for someone else, too. Statistically, I don't think there are any more stupid women that there are stupid men, but I think a lot of women play dumb to manipulate others - it's not a desirable trait and seems sort of parasitic to me.

I very much appreciate the fact that my wife thinks for herself, though we tend to think along similar lines most of the time, and it certainly keeps life 'interesting' when we diverge. However, my wife and I each have our own areas of expertise (not necessarily divided along gender lines). Frearms happens to be in my bailiwick, and knowing my wife as I do, I would tend to encourage her to start with something small and simple (as I would any newbie). Also, I have not trained that many new female shooters and I would seek the advice of others who have. Ultimately, though, she has to decide what works for her and choose accordingly.

OTOH, one thing I have learned is that guys who claim to understand women, generally don't.

 

[pax]

Perhaps a better question would be to ask; why do women prefer men who will tell them what to do?

c_yeager ~

You're right; that's the flip side of the same phenomena. But if I'd asked it that way, would any guys respond?

Meanwhile, in this thread, the phraseology of the question and answers are pretty much guaranteed to elicit a defensive response from people who have posted questions about guns for girlfriends or wives, while people who haven't posted the question because their wives know just as much about guns as they do won't have anything like the incentive to respond to this thread.

Control Group ~

Don't think I don't feel bad about offending people. I don't blame you for being annoyed at me.

The thing is, if I'd phrased it the other way, this thread would have six anemic responses instead of four pages' worth of interesting stuff. What I wanted was a lot of really thorough responses, and that's what I got.

pax

A man never tells you anything until you contradict him. -- George Bernard Shaw

 

[Control Group]

Don't think I don't feel bad about offending people. I don't blame you for being annoyed at me.

Oh, I'm not offended or annoyed - didn't mean to come off that way, and I'm sorry - I'm just pointing out that the wording will tend to elicit more responses of one kind than the other.