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Why doesnt anyone make a big bore semi auto for hunting???

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Atblis is correct you can get a bar in 338 win mag. I dont know why they dont chamber it in 450 marlin like their BLR ?
 
450 Bushmaster will fill the bill in the big bore semi - then the 50 BMG Barret is always available.
 
Many years ago I remember one of the gun rags doing some extensive tests on "brush busting capabilities" on various rifles. While it seems to make sense, psychologically, that a .45/70 will remain on-target better than a .243 when shooting through limbs & brush -- the "big bores" failed as miserably as the smaller calibers. I've seen this happen myself several times, and had many stories told around the hunting campfires through the last 40 years of the "shot that NO WAY could have missed!". A few blades of grass, a limb, a stick or twig... good luck getting that shot to hit exactly where you aimed.

Moral of the story is: Don't shoot through junk and expect to make a killing shot, unless you've got a lot of good karma stored up.
 
The BAR is available in rimmed magnums, and with some work can be rebarreled in 458, if that's big enough. Painful though.
 
I'd consider a semi-auto shotgun in 20 gauge. Way plenty of knock-down. 18" barrel. A quality 1.5x6 scope or iron sights and you're good to go.
 
Yea the browning is OK but I am looking for 20" or less barrel preferably. I already have a winchester model 70 bolt action in 270 and to me the BAR is not much differnt than that. I want sopmething that is quick handeling with good knockdown power at 50-75 in a carbine style hunting rifle that runs 6.5-7lbs. Basically the Ruger deerfield was perfect but they quit making it.
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Again, the Remington 750 in .35 Whelen is about as close as you are going to get. It is available in a carbine version with 18.5in barrel and weighs about 7.25 pounds.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_750_woodsmaster.asp
 
Stainless Marlin 1894SS is quick handling, 6.5 lb., 20" barrel, OAL 37.5", stainless.

Scout scope mount available, among other accessories the Deerfield never had. See this thread:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=311173

And the Marlin screws don't work themselves loose whenever you shoot it. Want REALLY big, get an 1895 instead.

Also, given that "brush busting" is BS, a Ruger Mini-30 or Mini-14 6.8SPC will work well, too, if you must have semi instead of lever. The stainless finish and synthetic stock are a lot more brush friendly than wood and blue, as well.

The Remington 750 is available in a carbine version (18.5" barrel, 39 1/8" OAL) in .308, .30-06 and .35 Whelen. Note that people load round nose bullets in .30-06, etc., if having a blunt nose makes you feel better in the brush. Like others said, though, it's dubious whether it helps any. Either way, those cartridges have plenty of oomph at 75 yards for just about any game you can dream up, to say nothing of game that actually exists. :)
 
If someone will get me about $100 million in venture capital I will clone up some dire wolves from the tar pits. Then you'll see LOTS of people making big-bore semiautos. Probably end the CA bans, too. (And if not, well, that's evolution).
 
Benelli makes the R1 rifle in .300 WSM and .270 WSM. Those two options can cover most of your hunting needs.
Browning makes the BAR series short and long tracks in those calibers, 7MM Rem Mag and a couple other calibers.
DPMS makes an AR platform rifle in other calibers as well, including .300SAUM which is ballistically a .300 Win Mag. Need more than that?
 
Atblis is correct you can get a bar in 338 win mag. I dont know why they dont chamber it in 450 marlin like their BLR ?


This is exactly what I am looking for!!!! Put an 18"-20" barrle on it with some open sights and sign me up!!!
 
The BAR can be rebarreled to .458.........but why give up the long range capability of the .338 ctg.......There is NOTHING on the North American continent that it cannot easily take!

While my favorite deer ctg is undoubtedly the '06 in Browning's carbine version of the BAR I also have one in .338......if there's a more effective "one shot & drop" round for 'em I'd sure like to hear what it is.
 
The reason I want a 45 cal is cause I want the nock down power of a flat nose bullet or a hollow point because when I am on a drive and shoot a deer if it doesnt drop in its tracks and the next guy shoots it it is his deer even if my shot would have been a kill shot. I have seen to many deer get hit through both lungs then contunue to run a couple hundred yards and the neighbor shoots them and there goes your trophy. Really has nothing to do with the "brush". I would just use my 454 taurus raging bull with 5" barrel but I cant hit CHIT with it! LOL
 
Well I like to have differnt guns for differnt situations. Like I said earlier I feel that a scoped BAR wouldn't be much of an adavantage over my 270 bolt. I am more than happy using my 270 bolt when I am sitting on stand overlooking a huge wide upen alphalfa field but I want a gun that will allow for quick target aqusition and heavy knockdown power when hitting the woods on a drve with they boys. I missed an oppertunity at a 155" 10 point whitetail last year that the neighbor ended up shooting and I know if I had a carbine style rifle with open sights he would be on my wall right now. I think I will have to give the Merkel SR1 a close look.
 
The reason I want a 45 cal is cause I want the nock down power of a flat nose bullet or a hollow point because when I am on a drive and shoot a deer if it doesnt drop in its tracks and the next guy shoots it it is his deer even if my shot would have been a kill shot. I have seen to many deer get hit through both lungs then contunue to run a couple hundred yards and the neighbor shoots them and there goes your trophy. Really has nothing to do with the "brush". I would just use my 454 taurus raging bull with 5" barrel but I cant hit CHIT with it! LOL
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Get a 12 gauge slug gun then.
 
The Saiga is heavy. Yuck.
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Heavy? 8.5 Lb. is heavy! My YUGO SKS or Mosin M44 weights more than that fully loaded. I have carried it all day never though twice about it along with a backpack to boot. If you want to see a test on how different caliber rounds handled deflection check this out. I have a friend that deer hunts with a 12 Ga. 3" Mag. loaded with #4 buck 41 pallets kills them dead every time.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot40.htm
 
I think I will check out that Remington semi auto in 35 wheelen with the 18.5" barrel. I am not a huge fan of thew Remmingtons but that looks like it would be a bad ass gun! Does anyone have experience with the remmington semi?? How is the action is it pretty smooth and reliable??
 
Yeah, I do. Jammamatics, broken extractors, failure to feed, failure to eject....you name it. I have one friend thats had his '06 back to the factory THREE times and it still doesn't function right. And by the way, if you do buy one and have to send it "home" make sure you specify that the repair be done IN HOUSE, because Remington farms repairs out to local smiths on a regular basis....Honest to God, I have seen a brand new, just out of the box .280 jam on the first round. Another fellow rip an extractor out with his .270........then there's that infamous '06 I mentioned...That fellow by the way does have another in 6MM that is quite reliable, tho....Personally, I woulden't even take one as a gift after seeing their performance.

If you are gonna go the auto loader route, buy a Browning.

By the way, I also do drives.....mine here in Florida involve hounds and I have had spectacular luck with that short BAR of mine.....I have never had a deer or hog move from the spot he was hit with my handloads....Using 165 HPBT Sierras over 57.5 of IMR 4350........and before someone says it, I know thats a BOLT GUN LOAD!.........But it works like a champ in my guns and out of an old M/70 I own will print under 3/4 of an inch.

Balls, I truly believe you could solve your problem with a little fooling around with good handloads.
 
bull crap, remington 7400 series guns work just fine with a little care and maintenance. We used to sell hundreds of them, the only ones that came back ever were the ones where people did not pay attention to keeping it the least bit clean.

When people start slamming them its very rarely that they them selves own the gun, and its a story of my buddy, or a guy at the range, We never had trouble selling them or keeping them working. Same with the 7600's we sold a ton and we never had them come back either, and we built some spectacular wildcats and rebores on that frame.
 
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