Why doesnt anyone make a big bore semi auto for hunting???

[dogrunner]

BS! Pete F.....If you want I'll even give you the names and px of the persons I mentioned!............The one with the three time return is a retired Police Chief and actually had to hire an Atty to get Remington fix that POS........Like I said, they're not even good boat anchors! And I personally witnessed each malfunction I cited.

Oh, yeah....you're right on my not owning one...if I did it'd shortly find another fool to try to feed it!

 

[Dr.Rob]

Calm calm... gentlemen!

I've only used the pump gun version of the Remington, but I've heard complaints about the semi-auto version over the years-biggest complaint is that the charging handle is too small for use with gloves, and IF it locks up (a problem possible with any auto loader) it's hard to really 'get ahold of' the bolt to kick it loose. (Talking about a blown case or similar similar issue.)These rifles are notoriously accurate, though in the 70's they were marred with hideous checkering and polyurethane finishes. Also the older versions are 'clean from the muzzle only' (don't know about the new generation). But you can imagine if the extractor rips the rim of the case off or rides over it that the Remington rifle isn't easily repaired in the field.

.35 Remington and .35 Whelan are sort of odd-ball cartridges in this day and age. The reason you haven't seen a 'big bore' semi auto is there's really not much demand, and what demand there is is being wildcatted into modular designs like the AR. In a BAR or Remington to fit a 458 Socom you'd have a short case in a medium to long action (feeding issues) AND feed it through a rather thin barrel. Those AR platforms can still mount a really heavy bore.

That being said, the 7400 (or what ever Remington is calling the semi-auto rifle these days) in .30-06 and the BAR remain THE semi-auto hunting rifles. People just don't hunt much with M1A's, Garands, FAL's etc. (Not that you 'can't', but there are restrictions on semi auto rifles in a lot of places)

 

[JWarren]

7400 series guns work just fine with a little care and maintenance

I personally DON'T like the Remington 7400 series. It always seemed a tad too delicate for me. But then again I feel the same way about a lot of sporting autoloaders.

But I give credit where it is due.

My father has a 7400 and a 742. My mother has a 7400. All are in 30-06.

Both have deer hunted with the rifles for YEARS. And neither has EVER had a single hang-up, misfire, or jam. Every year, I am the one that sights in the rifles for them. (I just like to) They've been solid shooters.

Now...

When I moved back from FL, I had been away from being able to deer hunt at home for about 7 years. I asked my Dad when was the last time he cleaned his 7400. He told me it hadn't been cleaned since *I* did it last. And all he ever did was spray some WD-40 in it occassionally.

I took it down and found Oak Leaves inside the reciever. And still, he NEVER had a misfire, hang-up, or whatever.


Go figure.

It sounds like some on this thread must really abuse their 7400's if my DAD's performs better than theirs (complete with oak leaves, dirty bore, and WD-40!)


-- John

 

[Gewehr98]

Ok...

The Saiga is heavy. Yuck.

Like you really want a lightweight autoloading rifle spitting out 405gr bullets, dude.

I'm in the process of doing my own Saiga .45-70 conversion. I expect it to recoil just a smidgen more than my Browning BAR.

 

[JWarren]

Like you really want a lightweight autoloading rifle spitting out 405gr bullets, dude.

Good point. Ask me about the day I was dared to shoot a guy's custom-barreled Ruger #1 in 458 Winchester Magnum.

I never did again.


-- John

 

[brasskeeper]

Moral of the story is: Don't shoot through junk and expect to make a killing shot, unless you've got a lot of good karma stored up.

or unless your using a 50 bmg and 753 grain AP

Camp .45 anyone?

Oldy but a goody that they need to bring back as well as add a 10mm

The reason I want a 45 cal is cause I want the nock down power of a flat nose bullet or a hollow point because when I am on a drive and shoot a deer if it doesnt drop in its tracks and the next guy shoots it it is his deer even if my shot would have been a kill shot. I have seen to many deer get hit through both lungs then contunue to run a couple hundred yards and the neighbor shoots them and there goes your trophy. Really has nothing to do with the "brush". I would just use my 454 taurus raging bull with 5" barrel but I cant hit CHIT with it! LOL

AMEN BROTHER PASS THE COOL AID!

 

[biggameballs]

I guess Ruger is bringing back the Deerfield carbine they just had some problems with it so they pulled it to tweak some stuff. Problem solved.

 

[sixgunner455]

Basically the Ruger deerfield was perfect but they quit making it.

Then look around for one and, whenever you find it, new or used, buy it.


Here's one. Took 3 minutes to find it. You're welcome!!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83304764