Why I carry in my own house...

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Every now and then this topic comes up here. And every time it does, some worthy soul comes along to explain why only paranoid people carry in their own homes. Well, paranoid people and those who live in bad neighborhoods where they know home invasions are imminent. :uhoh:

I am neither paranoid or prescient, so I carry a gun, because if I am going to need one, I will probably need it right then, and not in 30 seconds - or eternity.

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-homicide-july15-cn,0,86393.story


A 47-year-old Allentown man was shot in the face and killed during a home invasion and attempted robbery as he sat with his wife in his kitchen having coffee, according to family members.

David M. Walterick died of a gunshot wound at 3:02 a.m. today at his home at 937 Pine St., Lehigh County Coroner Scott Grim said in a news release.

Walterick was pronounced dead at the scene by Deputy Coroner Rich Kroon at 4:48 a.m., he said.

Grim ruled Walterick's death a homicide.

Robin Young said her stepfather was shot as two men tried to rob him and her mother.

Grim said Walterick's body was removed around 10:45 a.m. after investigators processed the crime scene. The cause of death is pending an autopsy scheduled for tomorrow.

Young's story was confirmed by several friends and family members who gathered in narrow Pine Street -- an alley between Gordon and Chew streets-- with her this morning to mourn the loss of a man who they said opened his home and swimming pool to everyone in the neighborhood.

Young said it was his generosity that probably got him killed.

She said whoever shot him knew his routine.

Young said her mother, LeAnna Walterick, and stepfather wake up every morning around 3 a.m. to have coffee before he goes to work as a garbage truck driver for Raritan Valley Disposal.

Walterick, who joined Raritan Valley in 2001, had been assigned to drive a route in Easton since last year, according to general manager Charles Pantaleo.

He was a "phenomenal employee" and a safe, reliable driver, Pantaleo said.

"We had a safety meeting this morning and announced it to 50 men, pretty seasoned guys, and they were very upset," Pantaleo said. "It's definitely a loss."

Young said her stepfather's brother, Robert Walterick, also worked for Raritan Valley and lived with her parents in the half double at 937 Pine St. Young lives on the other side of the house at 935 Pine St. with her two daughters.

She said it was her 18-year-old daughter, Heather Martin, who heard LeAnna Walterick's screams about 3 a.m.

Young said her daughter ran next door and returned home shouting, "They shot Pops. Pops is dead."

Young said she then went next door and found her stepfather lying on the kitchen floor. He was shot in the face. "I wish I never went in there," Young said.

Young said the robbers probably hoped to find her mother home alone. Because her stepfather's brother had already left for work, she said the robbers probably thought her father had left too.

Young said her mother said her father was shot as he tried to grab the gun from one of the robbers. She said her mother, who was extremely upset, said the two men came to the side door to their kitchen. Their faces were covered with something blue --- either masks or scarves, she said her mother told her.

"I think he took it for my mom," Young said, with tears still on her cheeks. "He was my dad. He walked me down the aisle."

Young said her mother and stepfather married about 25 years ago, and he raised her and three siblings. Young said one of her sisters lives above her in an apartment and another sister lives a few blocks away.

"Their nature is they're nice to everyone," Young said of her parents. "My dad is always there to help out.... He's always fixing everyone's car."

She said her parents had an open-door policy, meaning children in their neighborhood helped themselves to food in the refrigerator and the backyard swimming pool.

And although they were generous, Young said they did not keep much cash in the house. She said her parents started using a bank about two or three years ago after their home was burglarized and a safe was removed.

She said her parents have lived on Pine Street for about 14 years, and most people in the neighborhood knew them.

-- Reporting by Tracy Jordan, Daniel Patrick Sheehan and Manuel Gamiz Jr., The Morning Call
 
Yes but do you take your gun in the shower with you?
some worthy soul comes along to explain why only paranoid people carry in their own homes.
ta-da here it comes. although I wont exactly call you paranoid I think than the paranoia has to come with the "their out to get me " attitude.

As tragic as this is I usually do not carry in my house. On ocasion I will have a gun and move it with me from room to room or what have you but I do not wear a gun in my house. Ill advised maybe but I do not live in a high crime area nor would I expect my house to be the first one targeted when there are juicy easier targets nextdoor. Random things happen but I cant worry about then I have no time in my life for worry.
 


If I'm dressed, I'm carrying. If I'm not dressed, there's a handgun within reach. I answer the door with a handgun in my hand but not in plain sight. Too many home invasions to chance it.


 
Sad story...unfortunately it seems like we hear of this type of thing more often than we did years back; maybe that is perception, I don't know. I just think it is incredibly sad that in our own homes we may be victimized in this fashion, and it isn't always in "crime prone" areas...
 
hey, pennsy, you look familiar!;)

this is the reason i carry all the time (yes, it goes into the bathroom with me when i shower; that's what stainless steel is for); the only time i don't is when i'm sleeping, and the shotgun's only 2 feet away. my girlfriend also throws the "paranoid" word around, but as someone who grew up in a high crime area, i know that usually, by the time you realize you need to defend yourself, it's too late.
 
I may not wear one all the time when I'm home, but I always have one within reach. Home invasions are too darned common, and mine is one of the only two tempting targets on a rural dead end road. I'm sitting at the desk right now, and there's a model 65 .357 right next to the monitor. I don't call it paranoid, I call it being both realistic, and prepared.
 
I've kept my gun handy in my home for years. I've had people call me paranoid and say they don't feel comfortable in my home because I keep a gun close by. I have put my weapon away when someone like that asks me to do it, but I also don't invite those people back.

I have always said that it is better to be prepared and not need the weapon than it is to be unprepared and then need it.

It may be a quote from a fictional character, but, here goes.

"When the world is out to get you, paranoia is just smart thinking." - Dr. Johnny Fever, WKRP in Cincinnati.
 
It's only paranoid until a day comes when you need it, then it can literally be a life saver. And murphy's law, it would be just about right that the one time you end up needing a gun would be when you aren't wearing one.
"Nice neighborhoods" are becoming attractive to bad people these days. Lots of wealthy anti-gun folks who won't put up any resistance.
 
The problem with moving it from room to room, having it nearby, is that if you need it, you are likely to blank out on where you put the blinkin' thing. If you always carry, and you always carry in the same spot, then you will know exactly where to reach, regardless.

That's not paranoid. That's planning.

Springmom
 
Here in one of the "safest cities" in the country (based on UCR data and on a per-capita rating; city has pop. of 145K), we have had two recent home invasions. The first was two weeks ago, about half an air-mile south of me, in which a young woman was sexually battered and sodomized. The other was last night, about one air-mile north of me, and resulted in a male resident being shot (I'm unsure right now if he is still alive.)
I have four loaded handguns in my home, in different places, and my 10/22. I carry when answering the door, or when outside working, but not usually when inside.
 
With all my live stock and a LGD living on a country road and a 1/4 mile long gravel driveway I don't always carry in the house, but do keep it in the room I am in. If I go out, especially to do any farm related work I do carry just in case an animal gets out of hand or wild animals attack. And Yes we have lost animals to cyotes and I carry the shotty whenever I hear them in the area.

And Yes I do consider myself to be a healthy Paranoid.
 
I've questioned this myself, whether it's okay to leave it in the nightstand or if I should take it with me when I'm in the kitchen or living room (I actually went and got it when I read that story). I live in a really small apartment, and while I'm never far from the bedroom, I'm never far from the front door, either. If someone busted in, there'd be no time for going and getting anything. The only reason it lives in the nightstand is so it'll be nearby if someone broke in in the middle of the night. But who says that's when something like that would happen? I live in a decent complex in an okay neighborhood, but crime certainly isn't unheard of here, and anyone who pays any attention would know that I live alone. They'd also know that I have two big dogs, but I'm not betting my life on that as a deterrent - if I was willing to do that I wouldn't have bought a gun in the first place. So yeah, I think I'm convinced by now that I should keep it within approximately arm's-reach, and when I get my carry gun I may just keep it in my pocket.
 
I usually don't carry at home, but it is always within arms reach. I had to chuckle one time when I was cooking dinner. I was making home-made spaghetti sauce, and ran out of counter space, and didn't have my holster on, so I put the pistol in the open cupboard in front of me. My roommate reached for a spice bottle and came out with a handgun. I guess you had to be there.
 
Just because they are out to git-cha, doesn't mean your paranoid. :scrutiny:

I like to air out the house after dark (actually after 10pm) and I have a gun on my side as I do that. I also keep one available the remainder of the time.
 
As much as I would be considered our family "paranoid," I actually don't carry in my house.

I don't fault those that do. As a matter of fact, I don't carry mainly out of laziness or sense of security.

But I have to say this....

Since I don't have kids, and there are no unsafe adults in our house, I LITERALLY get to a gun in my home in less than 3 seconds from anywhere in my house.

Hell, I can reach out from this computer table and put my hand on:

A Glock, a 1911A1, and an AR-15. There's an LR-308 in the next room over, and a .22 past that.

And I haven't even gotten into the shotguns.


And yes.... all that will change then instant we have a kid. And I'll probably be more likely to carry at home with a baby to protect.


-- John
 
Just because they are out to git-cha, doesn't mean your paranoid.
Um maybe what else goes along with that thinking or are they really out to get you?

to each his own, some do some dont As long as you are not thingking every one is out to get you and every one is talking about you your ok.

I like to think of it this way, is my oven going to burst in to flames if I put my fire extinguisher down? if so then your paranoid.

But then again I do not walk around with a fire extinguisher in my hands either. I keep one secure in my car, my kitchen , and my utility room.

I keep a gun secure in my room, now in my work room(man room) It is what it is and if its not good enough then too bad for me.
 
I always carry. The area I live in has the highest crime rate in our state.
Often it may only be the KT P3AT in the pocket but I have a gun with me always.
Plus my wife is disabled (bedridden) and she has a firearm within her reach always and especially when I gone for work.
BTW--for showers--I turn on the alarm system. Gun goes in a baggy and sits on the stand next to the shower--If needed --the gun can be grabbed and fired w/o removing it from the baggy. Just keep the bag loose enough so you can still get to the trigger or stick your finger through the bag.
I'm in no way paranoid. I know the area that I live in and have seen neighbors become victims and I am really bad at being a victim lol
 
Hello jahwarrior, fancy meeting you here!

Eric F's sig line said:
If unarmed and faced with a Siberian Tiger I would probably do Darwin proud by scampering up a tall tree and shrieking unitelligibly while throwing feces at it.

You know, if you carried your gun, you wouldn't have to worry about being eaten by a tiger.

Eric F said:
Random things happen but I cant worry about then I have no time in my life for worry.

I don't worry either. I'm armed! :neener:

I live in a "good" neighborhood. Most people are reasonably affluent, it is rural with large lots, many of them multi acre. The closest "bad" neighborhood is well over 10 miles away.

You know what Eric?

Lots of my neighbors, which is more than one, but less than 10, have been broken into in the past year. The folks across the road from me, literally my closest neighbor, have been robbed. So I guess the bad guys missed the sign that says

Nice Neighborhood
Do Not Rob

What can I say? You have the freedom to walk around unprepared, just like I have the freedom to be paranoid. :evil:
 
I hadn't thought myself paranoid until I started thinking about carrying in the house. I just don't need to have a weapon strapped to me in my home. I live just outside of no where, so response time would be measured in days,;)There are no children that live here, so everywhere you stick your hand you come up with a loaded gun. It's actually kind of funny, the ones that never move are the 12ga, one at the front door, one at the rear; the Gold Cup on my desk here, the Sig by the bed, the PPK stuck in the arm of the recliner, and the 649 on the shelf next to the throne in case the apocalypse happens at an inconvenient moment. Oh, and the 66 on the fridge, incase I get attacked by a homicidal, zombie salami.(hey, it could happen:))
 
A shower gun would be awesome.. I will invent one!

"Always carry! When you need it most you will have left it behind."
 
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