I started out my handgun life with the usual 38/357 and later on picked up a 45 acp then a 40 S&W and then I just had to get a 357 Sig. Life was good... then I decided the Para Ordnance P-16 Limited would get a new barrel.. a 10mm. Recoil is no big deal and man this thing will shoot! Being a reloader I'm just starting to try different powder/bullet combinations... but I am really impressed... So I ordered a S&W 610 revolver in 10mm and am looking a Glock 29 next... Life is good
Why I like the 10mm
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Arkady
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I've been interested in the 10mm P16 conversion for a while...
Aside from awe, what have your impressions been? Reliability?
Aside from awe, what have your impressions been? Reliability?
nvrquit
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Welcome to the fold...
There are more of us than most would be willing to believe.
I'm sure that agtman, andabeer and the rest of the 10'ers will be posting in to welcome you aboard!
There are more of us than most would be willing to believe.
I'm sure that agtman, andabeer and the rest of the 10'ers will be posting in to welcome you aboard!
cheygriz
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My friend, you have just discovered one of the great handgun cartridges of all time.
If you want some real sizzling loads, try Nosler 135 grainers and a healthy dab of HS-6 or AAC#7. A good solid all around load is 175 GR Winchester Silvertips over AAC#7 or 800X.
Beware of Glock barrels though!!!! The chambers are loose and sloppy, leading to swollen case heads.
I have a Glock model 20, which I dearly love, but it has been rebarrelled with a BarSto barrel. I know this is an added expense, but I love the big Glock so well that I think it's still a bargain even after having to replace the barrel.
If you want some real sizzling loads, try Nosler 135 grainers and a healthy dab of HS-6 or AAC#7. A good solid all around load is 175 GR Winchester Silvertips over AAC#7 or 800X.
Beware of Glock barrels though!!!! The chambers are loose and sloppy, leading to swollen case heads.
I have a Glock model 20, which I dearly love, but it has been rebarrelled with a BarSto barrel. I know this is an added expense, but I love the big Glock so well that I think it's still a bargain even after having to replace the barrel.
Arkady the 10mm shoots very flat and the loads I am working up using the 165 gr. Gold Dot HP with 12 grs of AA#7 are very impressive. Besides the 10mm barrel I added a 22lb. recoil spring and have had no problems. The Hornady 200 gr bullets are good for hunting and woods protection... 16 + 1 rounds of 10mm... sounds good to me.
Big Mike
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Kitt,
Are there any other mods that need to be done other than the barrel? Extractor springs? The para mags hold the 10mm? Where are you getting the barrel? Jarvis? Barsto? I would like to hear more of the para conversion.
Mike
Are there any other mods that need to be done other than the barrel? Extractor springs? The para mags hold the 10mm? Where are you getting the barrel? Jarvis? Barsto? I would like to hear more of the para conversion.
Mike
thisaway
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Glad you got a 10mm, friend
"Welcome to my Web", said the Spider to the Fly...
"Welcome to my Web", said the Spider to the Fly...
stans
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Converting a 1911 pattern gun chambered in 40 should not be much of a problem. New barrel or have the original barrel reamed and a heavier recoil spring are all that is required. I prefer a 22 pound spring and a CP shock buffer in my Delta Elite with full power loads.
Big Mike,
I bought a new factory barrel on an auction for $70 and had it reamed out to 10mm for $35. Picked up a Wilson 22lb recoil spring and shock-buff and thats it. The factory mags work great and it shoots like a dream. Barsto, Ed Brown and others make the 10mm barrel to drop in the Para P-16 also. In my case it was money well spent.
I bought a new factory barrel on an auction for $70 and had it reamed out to 10mm for $35. Picked up a Wilson 22lb recoil spring and shock-buff and thats it. The factory mags work great and it shoots like a dream. Barsto, Ed Brown and others make the 10mm barrel to drop in the Para P-16 also. In my case it was money well spent.
Another 10mm fan.
And from what I've been seeing across the various boards, the 10mm is winning more hearts and minds everyday.
Considering the gazillion testimonials scattered across the net touting the merits of this cartridge, the "information super highway" is the best marketing tool the 10mm Auto ever had.
More and more people are discovering it, asking about it, posting about it, discussing it, debating it and then finally finding a 10mm pistol and shooting it - which is usually the "deal" cincher.
For some, their first 10mm gun is going to be Dan Wesson's 1911-style "Razorback," being released this month. (Check out all the posts about it over on 1911.com).
" [Para P-16] In my case it was money well spent."
Yep, especially considering how easily a 10mm autoloader can go from shooting the soft-n-fluffy .40-level loads to the stuff so hot it's treading on the nuclear zone. No ballistic limitations, unlike its offspring, the .40S&W, which can't be hotrodded into 10mm territory without becoming a handgrenade.
Enjoy the h*ll out of this cartridge.
And from what I've been seeing across the various boards, the 10mm is winning more hearts and minds everyday.
Considering the gazillion testimonials scattered across the net touting the merits of this cartridge, the "information super highway" is the best marketing tool the 10mm Auto ever had.
More and more people are discovering it, asking about it, posting about it, discussing it, debating it and then finally finding a 10mm pistol and shooting it - which is usually the "deal" cincher.
For some, their first 10mm gun is going to be Dan Wesson's 1911-style "Razorback," being released this month. (Check out all the posts about it over on 1911.com).
" [Para P-16] In my case it was money well spent."
Yep, especially considering how easily a 10mm autoloader can go from shooting the soft-n-fluffy .40-level loads to the stuff so hot it's treading on the nuclear zone. No ballistic limitations, unlike its offspring, the .40S&W, which can't be hotrodded into 10mm territory without becoming a handgrenade.
Enjoy the h*ll out of this cartridge.
Sean Smith
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10mm is a great cartridge. Probably about the most power you can put into an autoloader of practical size and still get a decent working lifespan. Capable of great accuracy, too.
denfoote
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Warming up to it!!
Slowly!!
My G29 is begining to win me over!!!
Slowly!!
My G29 is begining to win me over!!!
SKIDDING SIDEWAYS
Still leaning on Ruger to convert KGP-141 into 6-shot moon-clip-fed 10mm.
I like it.
And in revolver, maybe we could get some 230-250g wide-meplat bullets (running at say 1200fps; ooooh, sectional density woodie).
And IPSC/(IDPA), too.
Screw the autos, gimme that Ruger
Still leaning on Ruger to convert KGP-141 into 6-shot moon-clip-fed 10mm.
I like it.
And in revolver, maybe we could get some 230-250g wide-meplat bullets (running at say 1200fps; ooooh, sectional density woodie).
And IPSC/(IDPA), too.
Screw the autos, gimme that Ruger
AndABeer
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I need a carbine in this chambering. A lever gun would be cool but I guess I'll have to go with an AR upper or Mech Tech. A semi version of the MP-5/10 would rock after the mag ban sensets.
wun_8_seven
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i love to see right thinking americans.
Tazz10m
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Got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10... got to have a 10...
nvrquit
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10mm Fever almost...
... made me buy a Para P14 in .40 S&W today. The little conversion gremlins were sitting on my shoulder and trying to talk me into it!
NordiG3K is absolutlely correct! I'm just not sure if the 10mm disease is bacterial, virual or associative/addiction(ala drugs, alchohol, etc.)?
... made me buy a Para P14 in .40 S&W today. The little conversion gremlins were sitting on my shoulder and trying to talk me into it!
NordiG3K is absolutlely correct! I'm just not sure if the 10mm disease is bacterial, virual or associative/addiction(ala drugs, alchohol, etc.)?
rmgunsmith
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The 10mm is a great caliber.
I have a Colt Delta Elite and a Smith & Wesson 610. I have installed custom springs, guide rod, and the SFS system from Cylinder & Slide. It is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot with full power 10mm loads.
I have performed a trigger job on the Smith & Wesson 610 and it shoots very accurately too.
The 10mm is the magnum of semi-auto handguns and is still in use by various law enforcement agencies today.
A great web site on the 10mm is: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~gnappi/
With handloads you can match or exceed the power of the .357 magnum.
I have a Colt Delta Elite and a Smith & Wesson 610. I have installed custom springs, guide rod, and the SFS system from Cylinder & Slide. It is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot with full power 10mm loads.
I have performed a trigger job on the Smith & Wesson 610 and it shoots very accurately too.
The 10mm is the magnum of semi-auto handguns and is still in use by various law enforcement agencies today.
A great web site on the 10mm is: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~gnappi/
With handloads you can match or exceed the power of the .357 magnum.
Lennyjoe
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Welcome to the 10MM club.
For plinking try Blue Dot and for monster loads look at 800X.
For plinking try Blue Dot and for monster loads look at 800X.
gunfan
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Welcome to the fold!
I own 5, count them, five handguns chambered in the "mighty 10." You will love it!
Scott
I own 5, count them, five handguns chambered in the "mighty 10." You will love it!
Scott
shooter1
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Bought a 10mm Witness in Wonder Finish a couple of years ago. Wow! What a shooter!
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