why is it so difficult to get carbon off stainless revolvers?

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My new smith 686 has only a couple hunded rounds through it and I can't seem to get much carbon off the cylinder, especially the face. I'm just using a patch soaked in mpro7 solvent--what I use for the barrel. Don't want to scrub with anything too abrasive either for fear of perpetually changing the clearance. Do blued guns have the same issue just invisible to the eye due to the dark surface?
 
Jon,

I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS; but a trusted friend said that when he does his complete cleanings (total disassembly - not just field strip) he soaks all parts in simple green for at least an hour then scrubs it all down followed by a coat of very light oil.

He even soaks his poly guns and says that Simple Green is gentle on the plastic and the hands.

He never mentioned rubber pards/grips and it goes without saying to keep the lumber out.

I will try it - just haven't gotten to it.

For what its worth...
 
Oh yeah, just a wild A. guess but maybe the bluing created a sealed surface whereas the raw stainless gathers carbon due to microscopic pores in the metal.

Now I'm curious so I hope someone can solve the mystery.

Good luck!
 
To get it absolutely clean use a "lead away" cloth. NEVER USE THIS ON A BLUED GUN. I've had stainless guns and it works miracles.

The 686 was my first handgun and is still in great shape.
 
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JonF, get a "lead-away" cleaning cloth (usually yellow in color) from your local dealer. There are a couple of brands on the market.

These cloths are the best thing ever for cleaning stainless steel guns. I've used them for years.
 
Same here. I use the lead-away cloths. Wipes the carbon right off. On the other hand, removing lead residue from shooting Blazer or similar unjacketed soft lead rounds is another story entirely. I need to look into some lead remover of some kind. You need to remember to wipe done with slightly oiled lint-free cloth after the lead cloth. It does leave some abrasive deposit that is easy to wipe away.
 
Interesting. What is it about the lead-away cloths that wipes the fouling away so easily? Is it the chemical or the abrasive? If its chemical, what kind of chemical and can i get a bottle of it?
 
There's a combination of abrasive and chemical impregnated in the cloth. After you use it you wipe down, clean, and lube the gun. I don't think the chemical is identified, I don't have a package handy (store them in a zip-loc bag).

I was won over after cleaning my bore. I made a patch of this cloth, cleaned the bore, and was amazed by the gunk that came out of a "shiny" bore.
 
IMHO I think the reason KleenBore Lead Away is so effective is mostly abrasive. Works magic, but be very carefull!
 
Just to give a twist on this, I let my stainless revolver wear the colors of shooting it on the cylinder face . Never bothers anything, including me.

I just do a normal clean and consider the front of the cylinder as patina.
 
I use Hoppes and a brass brush on the cylinder face - and time to let the solvent work. Breakfree sometimes works better. The key is to work it in and keep it wet for 10-15 minutes - let the solvents do most of the work. Wipe clean - the 'shadow' of the former exit rings will come off quickly with a tiny dab of paste metal polish, Semichrome or Flitz, in a folded cotton swipe.

The polish slicks up the micro-roughness - and several products 'seal the pores', reportedly making future cleanings easier. I just use the polish, reasoning that the softer carbon will come off much more easily than the steel. It would likely take thousands of such cleanings to remove .001" of metal, so I don't worry.

The most important key to getting rid of those rings is allowing time to let the solvent 'work'.

Stainz
 
i dont know if it really is more difficult, or if it is just because you see it more. on a blued surface, it does not show up so bad. but on that nice bright stainless surface, it sticks out like a ftw tattoo on your forehead!
 
Slip 2000 works very well. Let work for awhile. I let it soak overnight, what's the hurry. It really does work great. Any tiny bit left is easily scrubbed off with a brush and your favorite. solvent. Flitz would probably work great for the last bit of stubborn carbon, but I have not tried it.
 
Hmmm...

Carbon comes off my stainless gun just fine with CLP.

Hoppes takes a good deal more elbow grease, for some reason.

Never had to use a polishing cloth, but I'll keep it in mind.
 
Just to give a twist on this, I let my stainless revolver wear the colors of shooting it on the cylinder face . Never bothers anything, including me.

Same here. I keep an eye on it so as not to build up and close the gap at the forcing cone. It never has with regular cleanings.
 
dusty gun

At the range, I'm one of the shooters who have the "patina" on his gun.

I do clean mine properly, but concern over minor details like that is not on my mind.

My concentration is with my shooting accuracy and renewing any skill I have.

I have a nice Italian pistol, and the Italian's; in the owners manual refer to it as cleaning the "dust" out of the gun after shooting.

"Dust." -There you are. Or smudge?
 
table motor

I had the same problem with my stainless judge. I used my table mounted motor, it took a second using the steel brush side to clean the weapon to mirror shine, I used it all over the weapon and it polished it beautifully.
 
I used Mother's polish to brighten up my stainless 686+ and it cleans up easier now as well since the surface is soother as another poster pointed out. I don't use it on the cylinder face though, just a brass brush and solvent there.
 
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