intercooler
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I look at many boards and hardly if ever see them mentioned. Also never see them for sale on GunBroker so what gives?
Why not much talk about STI?
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docnyt
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It's because STI owners love them so much they want to keep them secret and hold onto them longer than other guns.
Carter
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I don't know if this is true, but my local gun shop said you had to order directly from them, so less availability. Plus them seem to be a very high end 1911 market that is out of reach for the average gun buyer...or out of comfortable reach.
Zerodefect
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Expensive and ugly.
RUT
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Expensive yes, but I wouldn't call this ugly.
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jackpinesavages
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Well, when you talk about your STI around here you get 1 of 3 responses: that's cool, you're a snob, or how much?!! Then, you have the critics of the upper echelon who can't believe there's anything as good as their $3000 + 1911s.
My FFL Dealer grabbed me a great deal on a TargetMaster in .45, which is their 6" longslide, and I had Dawson Precision install their FO front site. That was my first 1911, bought on a "bargain price" impulse decision, and I love it for how it shoots, looks, and feels. Their build quality is insanely professional for an under $1500 1911 pistol. They might be compared to the Hodaka dirt bikes from the 1960-70s:the owners ARE cultish about letting out the knowledge.
My FFL Dealer grabbed me a great deal on a TargetMaster in .45, which is their 6" longslide, and I had Dawson Precision install their FO front site. That was my first 1911, bought on a "bargain price" impulse decision, and I love it for how it shoots, looks, and feels. Their build quality is insanely professional for an under $1500 1911 pistol. They might be compared to the Hodaka dirt bikes from the 1960-70s:the owners ARE cultish about letting out the knowledge.
JTQ
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While nobody (OK practically nobody) is really true to the original 1911/1911A1 design, STI has really taken some liberties.
From wide-body hi-caps, to ramped barrels, to nylon triggers, to the "RecoilMaster", lots of 1911 traditionalists, and is there anybody more traditional than your typical 1911 guy, are put off by these items.
There are a few models in the STI line-up I'd never consider, but if my local gun stores ever started carrying STI's, I'd certainly take a good look at them. I think they make a good product.
From wide-body hi-caps, to ramped barrels, to nylon triggers, to the "RecoilMaster", lots of 1911 traditionalists, and is there anybody more traditional than your typical 1911 guy, are put off by these items.
There are a few models in the STI line-up I'd never consider, but if my local gun stores ever started carrying STI's, I'd certainly take a good look at them. I think they make a good product.
intercooler
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Good responses. I was just wondering because I was looking for a 6" 10mm and not many out there. They have a "Perfect 10" for $2500 but it is butt ugly. Not only that but it is 13+1 where a $900 EAA Hunter looks better and is 15+1.
BTW that Guardian looks nice
BTW that Guardian looks nice
LiveLife
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I wonder why STI Trojan that is USA made is not mentioned more often when $1000 1911 comparisons are made that are often made with non-USA parts using MIM components.
As to accuracy, Trojan should outshoot just about every one of those $1000 models.
Especially when you can buy a Trojan for $999 - http://www.topgunsupply.com/sti-trojan-5-1911-.45acp.html
As to accuracy, Trojan should outshoot just about every one of those $1000 models.
Especially when you can buy a Trojan for $999 - http://www.topgunsupply.com/sti-trojan-5-1911-.45acp.html
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rellascout
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1911 traditionalist do not like them. They are very popular in the gun game world.
I personally do not like them because of the:
-Billboard
-Sights too many adjustable sights
-Triggers not a fan of skeleton triggers
-Hammers again just not my thing.
-Front & rear serration cuts not a fan of the width & angle of the cuts.
When you start to add all these up and add the cost to modify the gun with parts I would want they lose a lot of their value and appeal. I prefer Colts and Dan Wesson. I do recommend the Spartan to a lot of budget minded shooter looking to use a 1911 in competition.
I personally do not like them because of the:
-Billboard
-Sights too many adjustable sights
-Triggers not a fan of skeleton triggers
-Hammers again just not my thing.
-Front & rear serration cuts not a fan of the width & angle of the cuts.
When you start to add all these up and add the cost to modify the gun with parts I would want they lose a lot of their value and appeal. I prefer Colts and Dan Wesson. I do recommend the Spartan to a lot of budget minded shooter looking to use a 1911 in competition.
bigfatdave
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I really like the Guardian design, the billboard is only marginally annoying and other than that I like everything but the jumbo safety lever
Hondo 60
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I think the reason few people mention STI is because it's not a well-known brand name.
I lnow as for me, I never heard of them before I started looking for a 1911 about 4 or 5 months ago.
Whereas S&W, Ruger, Remington, Taurus, etc, are all very well known names.
(even by people who are not in to guns)
I lnow as for me, I never heard of them before I started looking for a 1911 about 4 or 5 months ago.
Whereas S&W, Ruger, Remington, Taurus, etc, are all very well known names.
(even by people who are not in to guns)
Radagast
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Hondo 60 has it. If you shoot IPSC / USPSA you know what an STI is. If you obtained your knowledge of firearms from TV or movies you don't.
If you were a gun nut as a kid and American Handgunner was your bible, then you could probably recite all the major members of the Pistolsmiths guild, but not know what an STI race gun was.
Basically STI make ultra reliable, highly accurate, close tolerance firearms that are bloody ugly if you have a traditionalist frame of mind. If you want to shoot IPSC/USPSA Standard, Open or Single Stack divisions they are the gun of choice.
I've a Bul M5 polymer framed 1911, basically an STI clone. It's the most accurate gun I own. I hardly ever shoot it because it isn't asthetically pleasing to me and I'm no longer a national player in IPSC. These days I am drawn to custom single stacks without front cocking serrations or the Browning High Power. I guess I'm getting old.
If you were a gun nut as a kid and American Handgunner was your bible, then you could probably recite all the major members of the Pistolsmiths guild, but not know what an STI race gun was.
Basically STI make ultra reliable, highly accurate, close tolerance firearms that are bloody ugly if you have a traditionalist frame of mind. If you want to shoot IPSC/USPSA Standard, Open or Single Stack divisions they are the gun of choice.
I've a Bul M5 polymer framed 1911, basically an STI clone. It's the most accurate gun I own. I hardly ever shoot it because it isn't asthetically pleasing to me and I'm no longer a national player in IPSC. These days I am drawn to custom single stacks without front cocking serrations or the Browning High Power. I guess I'm getting old.
corruptone
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+1.
As a owner of many different types and manufacturers of 1911's, my favorite of any I have ever owned is the STI Trojan 5.0 and this is not the most expensive one. I value any product that is a class leader when comparing quality, cost, support, etc. The Trojan is my clear winner.
As a owner of many different types and manufacturers of 1911's, my favorite of any I have ever owned is the STI Trojan 5.0 and this is not the most expensive one. I value any product that is a class leader when comparing quality, cost, support, etc. The Trojan is my clear winner.
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Those look like nice guns I wonder why they come with letters that look almost as bad eastern block import marks. I'm of the opinion that manufacturers marks should be discreet.
JTQ
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I believe they sell a lot of STI pistols (relatively speaking) in Europe.
ClickClickD'oh
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Rumor has it that MHI buys up their whole production lot. Something about an accountant...
Justin
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STI makes guns for shooters concerned with performance. Most people are out to buy a gun to make a lifestyle statement.
Also, STIs can, at times, be a bit like maintaining a race car. In order to really make them sing, you have to be willing to invest a bit more time and effort into them.
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Also, STIs can, at times, be a bit like maintaining a race car. In order to really make them sing, you have to be willing to invest a bit more time and effort into them.
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Sam Cade
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Heed ye now the one called Justin for he doth speak the truth.
Most folks in United States do not want to spend a lot on something with no big brand name behind it. Why actually knows what STI stands for? Fewer sold means fewer sold second-hand.
I do not think these pistols are any uglier then most competition out there. If it was about being pleasing to the eye we would all be shooting Caracal pistols.
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