WI: need young, attractive females

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No, this isn't some kind of lewd pickup thread.

We're going to have a fund-raising banquet in July.

We really could use young, attractive females to stand beside the gun tables and help draw in old farts like me, and get them to bid on guns.

The compensation for their time would be a really good dinner (same as everyone else attending will get), and the satisfaction of helping these young ladies be able to carry weapons for self defense.

If anyone can help in this recruiting effort, please email me at [email protected]
 
Geez, this isn't a thread for pimps. ;)

There's a slight chance--very slight--that we can do raffles legally.

Either way, the more lovely young ladies we have working the gun tables, the better.

18, 21, 31, 41, 50...doesn't matter.

What we don't need is old guys like me. ;)
 
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We really could use young, attractive females to stand beside the gun tables and help draw in old farts like me, and get them to bid on guns.
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This strikes me as marketing of the worst kind.

"Old fart"?

"Draw in"?

"Get them to bid on guns"?

:cuss:
 
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Nematocyst-870:

I've been in advertising since 1978. While times have changed, hormones have not. Even for us "old farts."

Sorry, sir, but you're in denial.

Let me give you an example: there's a gun show in northern WI that the WCCA had worked many times before, but the show attendees showed little interest in concealed carry.

Then, one morning, THR member Hunter Rose showed up with his lovely wife. I'll be damned if the number of people coming to our table didn't multiply by at least three or four times.

Plus, Mrs. Hunter Rose was able to talk to other women on their terms, so she drew them in as well.

As for "who let me in to THR," I believe Oleg and the moderators did, many years ago. No complaints so far.

And, if you think my idea about having attractive young ladies at the gun tables is somehow objectionable, well, you wouldn't want to know what else I've been up to with regard to CCW in WI.
 
personally, I would have said "enthusiastic" people

at the NRA table in Reno gun shows it seems like a place where
friends of the NRA guy hang out. They have a raffle that allways goes to the next gun show.
In SF the NRA table is eagerly attempting to sell tickets for the raffle and it gets raffled right there on the first day.

The title of the thread inites crude answers, I myself am pushing 50 but hardly consider myself an ancient flatuence.
 
"Denial is a river in Egypt."

Cute, but only if I hadn't seen that quip 10,000,000 times before.

I'm talking about having some attractive females at the tables.

Not prostitutes. And certainly not young ladies dressed like whores.

I just turned 55 last December. And I can tell you that it makes me feel good when a lovely young lady just smiles at me. She knows--and I know--that it's just a courtesy or, at best, some sort of acknowledgement that I still exist.

I met my wife back in 1968, when she was in her "prime years." And I would have no problem asking the wife I had then to stand in front of a table of guns, knowing that many of the buyers would just want to get a closer look at her.

In fact, I had some scumbag try to abduct my wife at gunpoint, and I didn't have a gun.

But I'm going off-topic.

Talking about whores, our governor has sold out the entire state for his own re-election.

I'm working on putting together a fund-raiser that will bring in as many contributions as possible.

And I know, just like I know my own name, that attractive females will draw more bidders/buyers to the gun tables than will crusty old men like me.

So, please, Nematocyst-870, don't preach values to me. I'm trying to organize a respectable event that will raise money for pro-gun candidates.

How much money will this event net? Maybe $10,000 to $15,000 at best.

Meanwhile, one of Dolye's minions sits down with a single exec from a road-building company or a casino tribe for maybe an hour and--voila!--he walks away with a personal check for $10,000.

Again, back on topic: we're going to have a fund-raising event to help CCW in Wisconsn. If anyone can ask some attractive female volunteers to help out, I'd really appreicate it.
 
Nem, I'm not even gonna try to argue the fact that Monkeyleg's strategy isn't a good one, or that it won't work...

Fact is, it's VERY good strategy, and will work exactly as he foresees it... And exactly for the reasons he's outlined. This is just how it is.

What IS sad is the fact that it works so damned well...

Every time....

ALWAYS.


Doesn't say much about us humans, does it? :uhoh:

Yup.... it's just sad.... damned biology....

Now... where'd I leave my cane 'n hat?



J.C.
 
Doesn't say much about us humans, does it?
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Nope. Sure doesn't.

But what it does say is this: humans are animals.
Just like chimps, monkeys and gibbons, we're animals.

Sex sells.

The trouble for those marketing using sex is,
some of us see through it
(cause we don't need what they're trying to sell with),
we buy guns for different reasons.

We tend to walk away from the {tables, stores, web sites...}
trying to attract us with sex.

For every one gun-interested person I know
who'd be attracted to such a table,
I know three who wouldn't.

(But then, maybe that's just the crowd I run in,
mostly THR members.)

Still, this is early 21st century America.
We sell shaving accessories, burgers, cars,
hair products, beer & football with
"young, attractive females".

Why not guns?

I'm reading with interest.

I'm laughing.

Please keep me posted about sales.

Please post pictures.

<Logging off now to pop more popcorn>
 
Moderators, please shut this thread down. Please.

All I'm trying to do is raise as much money as possible to give to pro-gun, pro-CCW candidates. And the amount required this year will be in excess of $60,000.

That kind of money requires hundreds of hours of work, and by many people.

I'd hoped that some of those volunteers would be attractive young women who also wanted to be able to defend themselves.

If someone wants to start another thread about sex or guns or anything else, that's fine.

All I'm doing here is trying to recruit volunteers. The rest of all of the posts are horse-hockey.
 
Nem, I've got about 25 years worth of old gun magazines (the paper kind) laying around here somewhere that I need to send ya... just so you can look at the ads.

Women and sex have been used to sell everything under the sun, since the beginning of time, I guess.... including guns.

And as for the "High Roaders" here.... I'm bettin' there's not too many that won't admit to being sold something, somewhere, at some time, by an attractive person of the opposite sex, that they wouldn't have bought ( or maybe even have noticed) if not for that person.

Sorry, but there's nothing new under the sun. Nothing at all.

And nobody can really gripe if a person recognizes a perfectly good method... an accepted one.... and uses it themselves. *shrug*

Sorry, but moral "high horses" just pi$$ me off... *shrug*

J.C.
 
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Sorry, but moral "high horses" just pi$$ me off... *shrug*
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No morality here. I like sex & porn as much as the next guy.

I just question using them to sell guns.

Guns can sell themselves.

Need self defense? Buy a gun.

Need to hunt meat? Buy a gun.

Need to catch a criminal? Buy a gun.

Want to shoot trap/skeet? Buy a gun.

Want sex? Look elsewhere.

There's a logical disconnect between 'sex' and 'gun'.

It's up to you to provide the counterargument.

Where is the connection between 'young, attractive female' and 'gun'?

And I don't ride horses, let alone "high" horses. I prefer to walk.

And, where is it written that one may not express an opposing opinion about a thread on THR?
 
There's a logical disconnect between 'sex' and 'gun'.
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Really?

I could spend quite a while debating this, but I won't. I'll just say this:

Any weapon... brain, tooth, claw, knife, spear...gun... equates to a means to defend one's self and one's MATE and OFFSPRING, and relates directly to said group's survival chances.

Now,I'm told by different folks involved in biology and psychology that the above fact has more than a bit of a bearing on mate-choosing sometimes.... and sex.

So... no link? Hardly.
Might not be what it once was, but there's still very much a connection there.

Anyway... you're more than welcome to your opinion.
My opinion, though, is you're just being silly. *shrug*

Or am I not welcome to express THAT? :eek:

Anyway, I'm done. Gonna go back to the TV now... Watch 'em sell everything with sex... just like they've been doing ever since the first TV commercials... even though we all know that crap never works...

Don't we? ;)


J.C.
 
What kind of idiotic idea is this?

You all wonder why more women don't get involved? This is exactly why. I had been hoping to make the drive to Wisconsin myself to support this, but there's no way in hell I'd do it now. And I sure don't want to know what else you're doing up there if this isn't sleezy enough.

There are issues other than gun rights that are important to me, and using women is one of them.

Good lord. I thought I couldn't be appalled anymore, and yet, here I am. And very disappointed, to be honest.
 
Given a bunch of tables with roughly similar wares, I'll probably go to the one with hawt chix first, if only to gawk at said hawt chix. :)

But seriously, nematocyst, chill out. Sex sells—and it's not like he was suggesting anything like E3 booth babes or the swimsuit models which always seem to accompany show cars. And it is a very sad truth of the gun world that women usually get all kinds of BS from (male) salespeople because they're "girls" and "can't handle real guns".
 
And what if he actually has them working the tables, instead of just standing around flashing teeth at people? If he was just looking for random women, he could hire random models from a local agency; instead, he's checking on THR.
 
What difference does that make? He's looking for someone to use their body for his goals. Makes it sleezy, in my never very humble opinion, regardless of whether I agree with the goal or not.

Not like he posted "hey, THR folks, I need help working a table." I'd have been all over that. But that sure isn't what's being looked for, is it?
 
That's capitalism.

If nothing but the egos of random people on the Internet gets hurt, then the ends justify the means, IMO. Are women being used to draw in customers because they're women? Yes. Is he spouting some PC nonsense to hide it? No. Is he looking for women who might actually have a clue and who might actually be useful at a gun sale? Yes.
 
First off
Thanks to MonkeyLeg for the work he is doing

Second
Guys like girls , for the most part.
A female , any female, at a booth will draw more people.

Females are typically better with social situations than males are.
They are easier to talk to and there's something intriguing to a gunny about a woman who knows guns.

Would there be this kind of backlash if he had asked for some buff guys to entice the Pink Pistol crowd?
 
Capitalism gives me the ability to never buy what he's selling. And tell 13 of my friends why I'm dissatisfied with the product.
 
Well, dude, I'm a woman, and a gun rights activist, and someone who spends considerable time and money on the cause, and I'm telling you, for me, it's a deal-breaker. So, pretty much whatever. He can do whatever he's legally entitled to do and I wouldn't try to stop him. But I'm not going to be supportive of it.

But I'm going to tell you alll, once again, that if you want to get more women involved in guns and gun rights, you'd better wise up. I myself get so frustrated with the comments here that I leave for months at a time..and I'm probably as true a believer as anyone. Look around? There are maybe a dozen women who post here regularly. Do you honestly think the ratio of gun owners in the US is 3000:12? Or do you think they don't participate because of stuff like this, and just go away and privately own a gun for self-defense but don't take it any further because its not worth the headaches?

Just because you "know women who don't mind" doesn't mean that most of us don't care. And I suspect they only "don't mind" because they haven't given it much serious thought.
 
You know what's funny? I bet at least 50 of you are suspecting I'm cranky about it because I'm fat and ugly. :neener:
 
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