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Kacerdias

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Last night my wife and I decided to take our usual stroll around the neighborhood. Things were relatively uneventful at first except for finding a stray kitten hiding in the suspension of a parked car. (I rang the doorbell to warn the vehicle owner - wouldn't want the cat mangled in the morning.) Just a few blocks down the street we heard a car come to a screeching halt on the main thoroughfare running next to one of two of the entrances to the neighborhood. I heard what sounded like an argument coming from a silver colored sedan that pulled up on the grass. The front passenger door flew open and a young girl went running towards the first house on the corner while the car peeled out and left.

My wife prodded me to keep going as she thought the girl was probably sneaking home after a date. But something didn't seem right. The girl stopped short of the door, turned heel and dashed down a side street. She was on a cellphone and sounded frantic. She was glancing around as if she didn't know which way to run. Nope, something wasn't right. That's when an Orange County Sherrif's patrol car pulled in where the silver sedan used to be. The officer got out of the car with a flashlight in hand scanning the area and talking into his radio. I told Jenny (wife) that I was going to go talk to the deputy. She rolled her eyes and I sprinted over to him waving my hand.

Me -"Officer, are you looking for someone?"

Cop - "Did you see someone?"

Me - "Yeah. Black female, late teens early twenties, denim jacket and black pants, talking fast on a cellphone. She jumped out of a car and bolted down this street." <pointing>

Cop - "Was it a male with dreadlocks?"

Me - "No, a female. She had short hair and a beret cap on. Didn't see dreads.

Cop - "So you didn't see a male run past?"

Me - "No, just the girl. She was here less than a minute ago."


He radios back in with what I just told him. By this time Jenny catches up. Another patrol car turns the corner and races down the street I pointed the first officer to. Another 2 patrol cars fly past the main street with lights and sirens on. Jenny and I both decide it's probably best to head back to the house early. The officer wouldn't comment on what was going on or why they were looking for someone. As we walked back I kept my surefire scanning the bushes and other hand in the pocket with my Kahr.

As we passed the second entrance to the neighborhood we saw the other patrol car had blocked it off. The girl I saw previously was sitting on the curb talking to the officer with her face in her palms. He was busily jotting down what she was saying in a logbook. A helicopter with a searchlight circled overhead the entire time and lit us both up during the walk back. It remained circling for several hours during the night. It felt really good to be back in the house! Doors locked, alarm on... I gave her a refresher course on how to operate my shotgun - I'll be out of the country on business for the next 6 1/2 weeks. Now more than ever I don't want to leave her here alone. :uhoh:

Her theory about last night was that it was a car accident where the culprit fled the scene. My theory was it was a gang related shooting or car theft where the guy dropped his ride-along girlfriend off so she wouldn't get caught by the police. This morning the local news had a story about a kidnapping in this area - and it was probably the girl that managed to get out of the car and away. If so, I'm REALLY glad I pointed the officer in the right direction. My wife teases me that I'm the only person in a crowd that runs *towards* the police in a situation. :p


So, what do you all think? Should I have done something different?
 
I guess you did just fine.

Reading stuff like this makes me very happy I do not have to, or choose to live in a place where helicopters are searching for people.
 
Excellent work. I definately would have had my safety off in that kind of a situation...

I also am pretty jealous that you have a surefire.
I trust my maglite with my life, and its good for beating people as a last resort... but surefires are so bright you can just blind the perp. (laughing laughing laughing)
 
Looks to me like she was trying to get out of whatever crap he had landed himself in. She may have been charged simply because OPB wants to pressure her into giving up her boyfriend. Or, she may be a part of the drug dealing. Regardless... it's a sign of the times that a quiet neighborhood can turn less-than-quiet in the blink of an eye.

I probably would've done the same as you.
 
Six O'clock Tactical said:
I definately would have had my safety off in that kind of a situation...
Do you mean the safety on your sidearm? As I understand it, the safety should come off as the sights are brought to their target. What's your thinking behind taking the safety off before then?
 
Do you mean the safety on your sidearm? As I understand it, the safety should come off as the sights are brought to their target. What's your thinking behind taking the safety off before then?

Well that is one way of doing it. But taking the safety off before hand just makes the weapon into something like a safety-less gun, like a Sig or Glock. Since it's OK to draw a Sig or Glock as long as your finger is off the trigger, it should be OK to draw a weapon with the safety off.
 
Originally Posted by Six O'clock Tactical
I definately would have had my safety off in that kind of a situation...

I'm hoping you carry a DA/SA with the hammer down and an external safety or a DAO with a manual safety (I guess some makers offer one, right?)...

If that's a single action, cocked and locked, drawing with the safety off isn't something I'd want to do!
 
Gees Ze, your "get involved" encounter was a bit more hair raising. I'd like to think I'd do the same thing so long as I always had an escape route should thug rapist spot me. :what:
 
Most people do not want to get involved. As a citizen it is our duty to become involved and do!

It might be your duty to become involved, but it's not mine.

For me, it's a thing called choice.

And given the way the younger suburban police around here treat citizens who try to get involved or otherwise help them out, my wife and I, along with our friends, pretty much just try to avoid them at all times and at all costs.

Besides, the local cops where I live are too busy running radar speed traps to even be aware that anything more serious than a Class C misdemeanor might have just occured.

Since the police are constantly reminding us, as a citizenry, that they are under no obligation or duty to protect us, I remind them that the citizenry is under no obligation or duty to aid or assist them.

When they start becoming peace officers again instead of little militarized wind-up Rambos, I'll be of a mind to offer assistance or help when I can.

The cops, troopers and agents I know and respect, I'll do anything for. The cops, troopers and agents who I don't know, but who treat me like a citizen rather than a subject, I'll do anything for.

But I am under no duty to assist law enforcement.

Jeff
 
For the Orlando crowd- Here is a link to a scanner that covers Orange and Seminole County SO as well as Orlando Police and a few other local groups-

You can also download the code sheet they use it so you can ID their calls...

I started listening a couple years ago and you for sure hear some crazy stuff- ALOT more then the news or papers cover..

http://heliosj.iddings.us/main/scanner
 
Offering information to LEOs when you think someone's in touble is a good thing to do. Just be careful how you approach, so no one mistakes you for part of the problem.

Ummm... Kahr's putting safeties on their pistols now?

With a mechanical safety, it's asking for an ND to take off a safety before the decision to fire has been made and sights are on target. IOW, bad idea. As bad as putting a finger on a trigger before the decision to fire has been made and sights are on target. Please don't do things like that...

lpl/nc
 
Time to buy a scanner. The police radio traffic you'll hear may amaze you.
In various parts of the country you can monitor Police, Fire and EMS broadcasts via the internet. To name a few in my neck of the woods:

Unfortunately you will hear less and less. Most departments are moving towards trunking digital radios and, more importantly from the scanners point of view, in car wireless dispatching data.

I have a scanner with my local PDs frequencies in it but you don't hear more than 3 or 4 short transmissions in an hour. Nearly everything is sent to the terminal in the patrol car or via cell phone.

Only the rare BOLO or foot chase goes out on the radio anymore.
 
When I lived in Arlington, VA there was a switch starting to digital. Now that I'm out in the Shenandoah valley everything is still analog and I get TONS of signal. In fact I had to divide things up more than just "county by county" or the radio traffic was unmanageable.

It's really hard to tell ahead of time what your area will have so I recommend a visit to the radio reference page. It's also good to find someone who already has a bunch of the frequencies so you can start off with a good batch to listen to.
 
When I lived in Arlington, VA there was a switch starting to digital. Now that I'm out in the Shenandoah valley everything is still analog and I get TONS of signal. In fact I had to divide things up more than just "county by county" or the radio traffic was unmanageable.

I live a bit west of you in the mountains... I have a realllllllyyyy old scanner my Granny had to entertain herself.. It picks up both directions of radio.. I pick up transpondences from Blacksburg, Cville... Pretty much the whole 64/81 area down to about Giles or Tazewell... There is sooo much traffic on it i keep it off 90% of the time.. Thanks for the link
 
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