Win 1200 and 1300 and the 2200

[dak0ta]

Hey,

I was wondering of the 3 versions, which one is considered the best? Do the 1200 and 2200 models have rotating bolts?

The W1200 looks better with the jeweled bolt and wood, but is there any major difference with the 1300? I've heard that the 1300's mag tube is connected to the receiver by plastic? Is that the same for the 1200?

What are the differences between the 1200 and 2200?

 

[Gelgoog]

the 1200 is heavy....the 1300 is just right.

 

[rcmodel]

The model 2200 Winchester was a 1200 made in Canada by Cooey for the Canadian market. I do not believe it was ever cataloged for sale in the United States. The only differance was the checkering pattern on the stock.

All 1200 & 1300's have a plastic mag tube retainer.

Here is more about the differnces in 1200 & 1300 shotguns.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=442326&highlight=model+1200

But I see you are the same person who ask the same question in April.
The answer is still the same.

rc

 

[Milkmaster]

I also ask a similar question a few months back.

"Kirbythegunsmith" offered some good insight and pictures of the differences over the years in that thread.

Here is the link...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=414214

 

[dak0ta]

For $150 would you rather buy a used Mossberg 500 AB , for $160 a used Winchester 1300, or for $150 a used Winchester 120?

 

[Milkmaster]

Easy call between the group on the 1300 for me.

 

[AKElroy]

Depends on how used is used. I would lean towards the 1300 if condition is similar. It may have some items that appear bottom shelf, but it is smooth as glass. Work it a few times before you right it off. It is my preferred HD shotgun due to how smooth & fast it works.

 

[dak0ta]

Also, any idea if the new SXP by Winchester will have parts that interchange with the 1200/1300?

 

[dak0ta]

And is the 120 ranger modeled after the 1200 or 1300?

 

[dak0ta]

anybody know?

 

[kentucky_smith]

The 120 is express version of 1300. Dunno about Sxp.

 

[Milkmaster]

To my knowledge the 120 is an economy version of the 1200. Especially if it is a 2 3/4" shell only chamber. The 1300 has a 3" chamber or at least any 1300 I have seen is a 3" ammo capable shotgun.

For example... I have a 140 which is an economy version of the 1400. Economy meaning plain wood like birch. It is not walnut furniture.

 

[41magsnub]

The 120's (at least my youth model 20ga and they were only made for 2 years) have a 3" chamber. It is a no frills version of the 1300.

However, at least mine gets a bit cranky with 3" shells because they just barely rub the front of the ejection port on the way out after firing. Unless you really pump it like you mean it on the back stroke it can fail to clear the ejection port causing a jam. A very easy jam to clear, but a jam nonetheless.

 

[dak0ta]

Any idea if Winchester's new SXP will have interchangeable parts with the 120,1200, or 1300?

 

[rcmodel]

It would be very unlikely.

It is being made in Turkey on modern CNC equipment, and I imagine a lot of parts have been changed with the new manufacturing processes developed since the 1200 was designed in 1960 something.

The FN-USA Tactical Police shotgun was a close relative to the 1200 too, as FN took over production of the old USRA company when it went belly up. But the parts don't interchange on those either.

rc

 

[dak0ta]

If a Win 1200 has a ribbed barrel and a red recoil pad, does that mean that this version takes Winchokes?

 

[Mr.510]

Uh, my 1200 has a ribbed barrel and a red recoil pad.... but it's a fixed full-choke. Now the barrel that came with the gun when I bought it used in 1985 was not ribbed and it was a fixed Mod choke. The gun has the "fanciest" version of the checkered walnut furniture and thus I think it should have had a ribbed barrel from the factory. It takes me eleven seconds to change barrels. My point is this gun has had two barrels in the 24 years I've owned it and I think the barrel that came with it wasn't the original. These guns are old enough that who knows what parts may have been swapped around over the years?

 

[All4eyes]

My vote would be the 1300, have owned one for 12 years, and no problems yet. It has thousands of rounds through it.

 

[MCgunner]

The 1300 is an awesome machine. It's a solid shotgun and fits well right out of the box, for ME, anyway. I don't like the ergos, prefer the Mossberg for ergos, but the 1300 is a fine choice.

I have the auto version, the 1400. I got a left hand safety for it and tried to install it myself, wound up taking it to a gunsmith. LOL Do NOT attempt this yourself, but that should improve the ergos and the same option, I THINK, is available for the 1300. Still, give me a tang safety any day, much more natural for me. Maybe I just got used to it, but once you've gone tang, it's hard to go back....hmm, doesn't even rhyme and sounds like a breakfast drink commercial.

 

[MCgunner]

However, at least mine gets a bit cranky with 3" shells because they just barely rub the front of the ejection port on the way out after firing. Unless you really pump it like you mean it on the back stroke it can fail to clear the ejection port causing a jam. A very easy jam to clear, but a jam nonetheless.

I had that problem with Remington brand steel shot 3" loads in my Mossbergs. I did NOT have that problem with Winchester, Federal, or other brands. Might just be the ammo. The Remington was a little too long once fired so I swore off it. Now days, though, I shoot 2 3/4" fast steel, works just fine on ducks.

 

[Z71]

The 1200 has some internal differences that the 1300 improved upon. Namely the flat metal ejector piece inside the receiver. The 1300 part is screwed on, the 1200 part is just held captive by the barrel.

Folks were removing the barrel, and reassembling with the ejector spring flat metal doohicky out of place. The later 1200 and 1300 guns avoid this issue with a simpler, smaller, screwed on part.

 

[dak0ta]

I can get a Winchester 1200 for $140 in good to very good condition. Would this be a bad buy if I were to use it for clays?

 

[All4eyes]

Get it, sounds like a real good price to me. If it is the 1200 XTR that is a really good price. I haven't seen one for under $300 in a couple of years in my neck of the country.

 

[dak0ta]

Also, why does everybody bash the 1200? They say it has an aluminum receiver, but that shouldn't matter right since most of the force is directed against the bolt?

Also, don't most pump guns have stamped parts? What makes the 1200/1300's inferior?

Any design flaws?

 

[dak0ta]

I have an offer for $200 for a Model 120. Should I get the 1200 or 120?