wisconsin gun laws?

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blutarsky

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PLEASE forgive me for posting if not appropriate here -- i've searched around and not found a more appropriate place... so here goes.

i'm a texas resident and am fairly well-versed with the gun laws here, for the most part they fall in the "common sense" line of thought, or at least i think so. i don't yet hold a concealed weapons permit, but i plan on taking the classes and submitting the paperwork sometime this winter/spring (especially due to some recent nonsense in my neighborhood).

anyway, my folks are nearing retirement and in the next several years will retire and plan to spend perhaps 1/2 of the year up in wisconsin (they plan to keep their primary residence in texas, but have the additional summer home up there). they've just recently made a contract on a property up there and assuming all goes well it'll be closing within the next couple months. i personally work full-time from home as a software developer so i can pretty much work wherever i have internet access and computers. since they're not planning on actually using their house full-time for maybe 2-3 years it's entirely possible i could move up there (it's absolutely beautiful) and in effect rent the house from them... especially during the increasingly hot summers lately here a change like that might be nice. they'd like someone to watch the house and prepare it for them (as well as paying down the mortgage by paying rent), and i'd love to get away from here for a while. so far my experience there is that of a more relaxed atmosphere and "how life used to be" (it's in door county, if that matters). our family originates from up there so in a sense they're going back home, even if a couple generations out.

i believe wisconsin doesn't have concealed carry, which doesn't really bother me too much -- but that'd be nice. what i really wonder about is dual-state residency. i'm currently a texas resident, and i don't plan to change that... how does it work to be a resident of one state living in another? there's been talk about putting the house up there in my name, at least initially, but that's neither here nor there. if i (or my family) owns property up there, you'd think you'd have "rights" as a resident, but if you don't hold a drivers license in the state and you consider yourself a resident of another state, then what if you wish to buy a firearm there? for the time i spend in texas, i clearly want to be able to get my ccw and i enjoy the rights i have here -- it's a pretty firearm friendly state and i really don't want to give that up for any time i spend up there, but if i'll be there for a few months a year, or even for the next year or two how can i operate without being a resident? can i take my guns from here with me, or do i need to go through some sort of process to transfer them and get a license, etc? i'd be totally fine with leaving all my firearms here and buying new ones up there -- a shotgun and a .22 would probably do the job for me there, but can i do that if i don't hold a state id? also, what are the laws for concealed or open carry on ones own land? they'll have several acres of heavily wooded property -- more often than not we wouldn't even think of carrying there, but what if we wanted to... is that even possible?

some of these questions may seem silly -- but i honestly cannot find anything which clearly and authoritatively puts my questions to rest. anyone with real-world experience in wisconsin especially, and anyone with any sort of experience with living between two states throughout the year would be great.
 
Well, i'm not a lawyer. But I AM in Wisconsin (and not that far from Door, either), so I'll take a stab at it...

You CAN bring all your toys with you. If any are NFA, you might need to get a new sign-off (not sure how that's handled). Anything "normal" though, and you're fine...

Drop me a PM when/if you head up this way: I could use an excuse to hit the range!
 
Those aren't silly questions at all. I'd check the laws, but other than the no concealed carry law and 48 hour waiting period for handguns, Wisconsin is a pretty gun friendly state. I've never had any problems with stuff here, at least. We don't have gun licenses, but I'm not sure how NFA items work in this state.

I carry open and concealed on private property all the time, and ever since that deal with Vang I make sure to carry while hunting, as well. I have a firearm on me at all times.

A couple things, though. Door county is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the state, so during most of the year it's going to be full of irritating people from other states, or other parts of Wisconsin. Contrary to popular opinion, Wisconsin gets pretty hot in the summer, and what it lack in heat, it makes up for in humidity. It may only hit 85 or 90 degrees, but the humidity is at the same level. The only place worse I've lived was the low country in South Carolina, which is basically a swamp.
 
WI is:

- Own whatever you want. No state restrictions on type or capacity. You only need match Federal law.
- No registration other than the NICS 4473 forms at your FFL, and the WI handgun background check form.
- No special licenses to own use or buy firearms.
- Private in-state sales are legal.
- Bringing NFA into the sate that you already own is legal if you file the appropriate ATF paperwork when you move.
- Black powder and airguns are "over the counter".
- Buying new-to-you NFA is legal if you incorporate, or can get CLEO sign-off. (Getting CLEO sign-off in WI is probably a bit harder on average than some other states)
- No storage laws.
- No CCW for anybody other than sworn LEO's in public.
- CCW is legal on your private property, or with permission of the owner on someone elses private property.
- Open carry is thoereoretically legal, but not commonly practiced.
- Two-day wait on handuns.
- No wait on long guns.
- Car transport is in a closed container, unloaded. With least possible access by the driver or occupants. No loaded magazines either.
- State-wide preemption laws. No city bans or stupid regs. Only the state legislature (where the rural areas have more say) can pass gun laws.
- Range protection. aka "We were here first". Development/encroachment can't force ranges out of business.

tmpick is right, other than the two-day handgun wait and ZERO CCW (We're working on it, and will get it eventually, more of a "when" than an "if".) and our strict car-transport regs, WI is pretty gun friendly. Before the wave of new shall-issue CCW states swept the U.S. and raised the bar for what made a state "gun friendly" WI was near the top.
 
Come to MN instead

Come to MN. Reasons:
(1) MN has 'shall issue'
(2) MN has a better economy
(3) MN has more state land = more places to hunt / shoot
(4) MN has a better tech infastructure to deliver services - phone, cable, hi-speed internet ...

Why not WI ?
(1) Ruling Gov. wants to make WI = IL
(2) More likely to outlaw some of your collection than MN
(3) Not as much to do when grandkids visit - equating to possibly fewer visits by consequence.

WI is gun friendly when compared to San Fran or NJ - but in the big scheme of things they are pro-hunting and not pro-gun ... make that distinction in your head and you'll understand WI. By contrast, MN in their law making process is not myoptically tied to hunting. And this is why I believe some of your guns are in danger should you move to WI - if some of your guns are not for 'hunting' then the state legislature could very well argue that you don't need them. For every state this is an ongoing battle, but WI falls too close to IL on this matter. MN is > WI for not tying gun ownership to traditional hunting pursuits.

I'll throw WI a bone in that they have better laws regarding transport of firearms than MN.

Just my .02 I bet your grand kids would love to visit the Mall of America :eek:
 
Come to MN. Reasons:
(1) MN has 'shall issue'
(2) MN has a better economy
(3) MN has more state land = more places to hunt / shoot
(4) MN has a better tech infastructure to deliver services - phone, cable, hi-speed internet ...

Not to mention that if he moves to Minnesota, he'll automatically end up in the 98th percentile on IQ tests.
 
Since you're folks are buying property in Door Cty, let's assume they're not poor;) Property taxes in WI are generally higher than most of the country, so they shouldn't have issues with that.

WI has a "contiguos" (sp.) law about rifles, so you won't be able to buy a rifle with a TX DL, nor a pistol. Since you mentioned living here, you can take your utility bills to the DMV and get a WI license, which will open up firearms to you instate.

WI allows all NFA, so file your change of addy form with the ATF, and bring them with.

Your parents will be snow birds, so this won't effect them, but for you, it does snow up here.;) That 1 or 2"s of snow that closes the state of TX doesn't even get the plows or shovels out here.;)
 
No loaded magazines either.
You got a link or something on that? I do not remember anything in the law about needing to empty your mags for transport. Just the mag could not be in the mag well.
 
Wisconsin and IL are the only two states left that don't have any form of CCW. Be advised that when travelling from Texas to Wisconsin, you may have to pass through the People's Republic of Illinois. Illinois DOES NOT RECOGNIZE any state's CCW. Traveling from Missouri to Illinois is like going from East Berlin to West Berlin in the days of Checkpoint Charlie. From a free republic that trusts its citizens -- to extreme repression, government excesses and power-heady politicians that couldn't balance a budget if they had the entire U.S. tax base. Good luck. Go from Missouri to Iowa and skip Illinois on your way if you value your freedoms and liberties.
 
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