Wisconsin shootings

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Please do not call this a "tragedy." A tragedy is where a car hits a fallen rock on the highway. This appears to have been murder, and the guilty party is hopefully on his way to hell.
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And the innocent people who had to die is not tragic? It's one thing to call what the officer did tragic, it's quite another to call the incident tragic. It is a tragedy for the simple fact that innocent people died because one person had a few screws loose. Let's not forget that while we rant about the officer, shall we?
 
I just read an article where one person asked "How did he get through the system"

Not everyone who is a complete whackjob has a swastika carved in his forehead like Charlie Manson.

I imagine that the Menendez Brothers looked like all-American boys, and Ted Bundy was probably a very smart and engaging individual.

This was not a "something is wrong with my brain" tragedy, it was a crime of passion, pure and simple.
 
Romance gone wrong, they are saying now. Something happened at the party that caused him to go Amok.

I have said this in another thread but it fits this one also. It is an age old problem and has happened thousands of times in America, in the last few years it has been very bad especially when firearms are in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runs_amok

Going postal is another term:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

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Unfortunately the only prevention for "running amok" is for the intended victims to be in a position to defend themselves.

Because of the age of the victims here there just wasn't much of a chance of that happening.

It will be interesting to see the result of any alcohol/drug testing.

A weekend party at 2:45am is unlikely to be a sober event.
 
Is calling it "police style" better than calling it an assault rifle? It seems a little better to me. The word police SHOULD bring to the mids of sheep guns used to protect instead of assault.
 
Since it has become the weapon of choice among the police of late it is not that offensive (to me anyway). I think of shotguns also. Now between the two in a house and close in 000 buck in a 12 gauge would have put a lot more projectiles down range then 30 rounds.

If it is a .223 and the size means any thing all those projectiles of equal size (F) 39 per shot, would have added up into the 100's from a shotgun with as little as 3 rounds let alone one that carrys 8 in a tube mag.

One heck of a weapon for sure.
 
Stories are beginning to come out saying this was an issue weapon but nothing sure yet....

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=672136

Peterson showed up at Kegley's home a few miles north of Crandon at about 7:30 a.m. Sunday and told his wife and their son - Peterson's friend since childhood - what happened.

The family quietly called 911.

The Kegleys coaxed Peterson, a Forest County sheriff's deputy and part-time Crandon police officer, into handing over his work-issued assault rifle - the weapon he said he had used in the slayings - and tried to calmly talk him into turning himself in.
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Please do not call this a "tragedy." A tragedy is where a car hits a fallen rock on the highway. This appears to have been murder, and the guilty party is hopefully on his way to hell.
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I agree. This is an "atrocity", not a tragedy.

Also - This guy was not a "gunman" or a "sniper". He was a "murdering idiot".:fire:

I'm glad they put him down quick.

Best wishes to the families of these poor young victims.
 
"his work-issued assault rifle"

Assuming this is correct info, I am glad to hear this was not from his personal collection as that would give ammo (no pun intended) to the anti types who will wish to focus on the tool vs the intent of the person, and can only lead them to call for banning such tools from the police.
 
If it hadn't been an officer, I figure we would have seen much more ink poured into the words "assault rifle."

Terrible event, hope the families can recover.

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Seems that most LEO are going to have a handgun of sorts, and issued a long gun if in the woods, along with a shot gun if working in urban areas, pretty much covers all the basics, for LEO.

We could go further and get some heavy duty stuff but then it would be only obtainable if you worked SWAT..
Special weapons units are where the exotics are.

He was intent on killing those people and he did it.

Does not matter if he was a LEO or not, it should be looked at like a civilian situation, as the folks over at "the firing line" seem to want to place LEO at.

Can't have it both ways, it's either, one or the other as far as I see it.
 
I recently saw some research showing that the brain isn't fully mature until around 25- teenagers do goofy stuff largely because of their immature brains. Most of the best cops I know took it up as a second career after doing something else first- frequently senior enlisted or officers in the military. I don't think a 20 year old should be an LEO.
 
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Here is a new one: CNN is calling an AR-15 a "Police Style" rifle

An off-duty sheriff's deputy used a police-style AR-15 rifle to kill six people at an early-morning party in a small Wisconsin town, officials said Monday.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/08/wis...ing/index.html

What the heck is a "police style" rifle???
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If I wanted to give the media the benefit of the doubt, I'd say that perhaps it refers to a full auto AR-15. Truth be told, however, I highly doubt the media (of all organizations) really has any idea of what it's talking about, at least when it comes to firearms.
 
oh wow.... I didn't even see that this involved an AR until just now.

I have to wonder if this is going to get cited as a reason for an AWB. If it is, it will be interesting seeing as an AWB wouldn't ultimately affect an LEO.

Well... or ultimately anybody other than the law abiding citizens really..... but you all know what I mean.
 
Good thing people under 21 can't carry guns, they might get shot.
Good thing Wisconsin doesn't allow CC.
Good thing the police are there to protect us always.
Good thing 911 is hooked up to a teleporter in the PD.
Too bad people believed those 4 lies and are now dead because of it.
 
it was a crime of passion, pure and simple.
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spurned by his x-girlfriend...........called "worthless pig" by the other kids at the "pizza party"........grabbed his rifle from his car and "made them all pay" for his hurt feelings. To bad he couldn't have been a man about it and either walked away or called the loud mouths outside to settle it with their fists.....

Now there all dead and the shooters dead too....

the whole situation was totally avoidable.....no reason to escalate the situation with verbal taunting....no reason to lash out with deadly force.

Just the other day I posted on a thread where the OP was a young man with a CCW in Texas, who had been written up on a misdimeanor "breach of the peace" charge after flipping off a little old lady making a u-turn. Many posted their outrage that the charge was a violation of the OPs first ammendment rights and that the first ammendment protects your right to say anything you please to anybody at any time. I called that thinking an abuse of the first ammendment.....and seemed to be the minority report.

Does anyone think the victims families in Wisconsin will be consoled by the knowledge that their loved ones died excercising their first ammendment rights?
 
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