With regards to flash hiders what's considered "permanent" attachment?

[joey93turbo]

Say someone purchased an AR15 that they believe has a 14.5" threaded barrel. The guy they purchased from said the flash hider was permanent. He gets home and upon closer inspection it appears that this "permanent" solution is red locktite.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't cut it. What needs to be done to attach it permanently and make it legal?

 

[RRTX]

Pinned, silver soldered, or welded are the three most common methods i believe.

 

[joey93turbo]

What's the best way to have one attached? Is it something easy enough for one to do theirselves or is it recommended a smith does it? will a smith even touch an illegal weapon?

 

[TexasRifleman]

Just to make danged sure you are legal, take all AR lowers out of your house and keep them at a buddies. It's not illegal to own a short upper alone, just illegal to have one and a lower together at the same place.

So, take the upper to a gunsmith, without the lower, and have him weld it up.
Keep the upper and lower way apart from each other til you are done.

 

[joey93turbo]

Thanks for the advice

How much do you think a smith will charge?

 

[Farnham]

Not that I would ever condone anything illegal, BUT...

Has anyone here EVER had his/her weapon inspected by any law enforcement types looking for this kind of infringement? I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering this for a long time. The only time I can think of where law enforcement/ATF types might ever closely inspect my weapon is if it is used in a crime, or used in self defense. I don't rate the AR high in my CCW scale, and I sure ain't planning on committing any crimes with it.

Is there some gang of JBT's running amok at our local shooting ranges and gun stores searching for violations of obscure and patently useless (i.e., if a rifle barrel of 14.5" leads to crime, having a V-8 leads to speeding) laws? Did I miss them?

Bet that gives you an idea of how I'd handle it, joey. I am neither a gunsmith, a cop, or a lawyer, so pay me no mind in this matter.

Farnham

 

[jefnvk]

Farnham, for all they know, all my rifles have been cut down and my pistols have stocks.

They aren't, BTW. But what if your house burns down? Or it is burgularized? Or, you do use it in defense. Or a visitor sees it and calls you in as having a 'evil machine gun', police respond and find it? Is it worth 10 years/$100,000? To me, it isn't.

 

[PMDW]

They aren't, BTW. But what if your house burns down? Or it is burgularized? Or, you do use it in defense. Or a visitor sees it and calls you in as having a 'evil machine gun', police respond and find it? Is it worth 10 years/$100,000? To me, it isn't.

I'm willing to bet the average police officer doesn't know the legal length for rifle barrels. I doubt even more that the average officer knows that the ATF considers having an AR, and a short barreled upper the same as being a short barreled rifle.

 

[TexasRifleman]

I'm willing to bet that none of you want to volunteer to be the test case

We're talking prolly 20 bucks worth of gunsmith work, I think that would be worth it. You don't want to be the one guy that draws the bad luck card on something like this, after admitting to it in a public arena.

 

[PMDW]

Send me a short upper and a lower. I'll do it.