Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by 460Shooter, Mar 19, 2020.
Someone sent me this video clip the other day. I kind of like the "social distance stick" used.
I'll take pictures and,post tomorrow, but I've been working on a Tactical Stick. I'm on version 2. Sort of a cross between a walking stick and an exploring stick. Has a poker and a hook, plus a sling for when you don't want to hold it. Picture tomorrow.
Got an email. Gyms closed for another week.
Guess the shillelaghs are getting a further workout.
I walk the dog every day, same as before COVID-19.
My "walking stick" is an iron rake (sometimes called a "bow rake", evidently), which serves multiple purposes.
I walk daily, right now only about a mile and a half. Recently finished a 12 round session of Chemo Therapy and luckily I am in Remission, so now it's time to try a regain some of the weight and muscle mass I lost the last 7 months. Walking and light exercise is it for now. I do carry a cane everywhere as I do occasionally need it as the legs are still a little unsteady at times. I have made many canes and walking sticks as a hobby since I retired 5 years agi.
Hope your recovery is speedy.
Walk to the mailbox once a day, no stick but carry 16 hours a day. I ditched the gym years ago and stay in pretty good shape with push ups, crunches and squats. All high rep and no weights. My job requires a lot of walking also.
I do like some type of stick for walking trails but haven’t done that in decades.
I have had in mind a "exploring" stick for a while. Something more than just a "walking" one. Something I could use to poke, hook and pull an something and that might double as a gun rest. The features I wanted included a hook, a hand hold and a sling. So this is my Covid19 project. Utilizing the end of a fireplace poker I got my prod and hook. The sling was easy. I inset a rail and then used a hand stop from an AR to give me a way to hold the stick while pulling on things I hooked. I could also use the top (front actually) of the hand stop as a gun rest as well. This is only Version 2. Next step is to find a better prod/hook and a lighter, but strong, stick.
Not if you walk a nice sized dog like I do................................
Sure wish I wasn’t allergic to dogs.
Pack test for firefighting?
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I have a couple of sticks that I made also. Too dark now to take pictures.
Might wanna reexamine that "magic bullet" thinking. If your dog is menaced or attacked you could use the stick to drive off the other dog or to deal with the owner.
Never quoted myself..........
Two made by Mother Nature, both Diamond Willow, still need to finish.
The one in the center I made from a $1.00 rummage sale find. It was an aluminum extension for a paint roller.
Adjustable yet sturdy, bicycle grip for a handle, wrist strap, furniture foot on bottom and a device on top for just in case.
Have yet to need these, but there just in case.
I have a super light willow walking stick I made out of a tree that blew over at my mom's last year. Put a real heavy steel cap of the tip to give it some mass. Certainly lighter than my oak club, but Mother Nature put a crook on it and the epoxied on cap makes it hit harder than you would think. Lots of parrying and solid strikes.
Like I said I don't have a dog, and I'm likely never to have one due to allergies (not severe and I can be around dogs for a few hours before I start feeling like crap), but many people I know who have dogs have shared tales of "Well we were just walking along and someone's dog came running out on the street and just went after Fluffy!"
It might be an unskilled baseball bat swing or a highly skilled and trained defensive deflection and counter strike, but any way you swing it, a stick may be an effective deterrent for an aggressive attacking dog going after your dog. Though a large dog that likes to pull may make it a tangled mess.
I have rattle snakes where I live also. While I would never advocate messing with a snake if you can simply walk away from it, it might work to safely distract a snake you've stumbled into while you step out of striking range. They aren't a big problem here, and I've only heard of one death in the last decade and a half, but I have accidentally gotten way too close bfore. Their camouflage is pretty amazing, and they are not apt to rattle.
Bikerdoc made me this stick with my ideal length (39"). I took it with me on our walk Sunday.
Not visible in pic: CZ P-10*, Spyderco Shaman.
*Oddly enough, the larger CZ is less likely to rub skin off when worn walking for an extended period of time than a smaller piece like my Shield or Kahr.
I've experienced this also. Better distribution of pressure I believe from a larger holster.
This is the “staff” I use, and that’s “Curious Ruger” peeking around the corner. The staff is actually just the handle for some kind of digging tool (that I don’t remember the name of) that I found at Ace Hardware. It didn’t cost very much, and it only took me a few minutes to sand down the end in order to fit a rubber tip (for a table leg) to it. I later drilled a hole through the other end and tied a leather boot lace through it so that I can put my wrist through the loop to rest my arm.
At any rate, I don’t know how many rubber tips I’ve replaced over the years, and the staff itself has been refinished once, but it serves me well. As you can see, it’s stout enough that it helps with my exercise while I’m walking. And while all I’ve ever had to do is “show” it to the farm dogs that run a hundred yards down driveways to yell at me for trespassing on “their” sections of a public road, there’s not a doubt in my mind I could defend myself with it if I had to.
A few years ago, I was out for my daily hike when a County Sheriff’s Deputy drove by. He slowed, almost to a stop, rolled down his window, and with a smile asked, “Is that walking staff for support for your knees, or for dogs?” I smiled back and said, “Yep.” The Deputy just laughed and drove off.
Oh, by the way, I also carry a little 32 H&R revolver on my exercise hikes. Sometimes it’s concealed under a longish jacket or coat. Sometimes it’s not.
In this case, I think the contact area being spread across a larger grip is the big difference.
Thanks! It's sized perfectly, so that resting my hand atop the knob, makes my elbow form a supportive right angle.
I've been using my 38 inch blackthorn. It's just the right length and weight that I can grab it 1/3 of the way from the bottom for a one handed downward strike with pretty decent speed (I'm thinking on an aggressive dog.) or an upward deflection if need be with the bottom of the stick. Obviously two handed use is different though.
It's all pretty much just watch and try to copy technique for me right now. Had an unfortunate outcome last year that has severely limited my free time and financial means. And now this virus crap has travel limited. I'm hoping to acquire some real training in the coming year so I'm not just a dummy with a club.
I'm not sure. I know Doc keeps an eye out for likely limbs.. crepe myrtle, maybe? I think it's got a bed knob on top for a ball.
Asked what material?
Indeed it is crepe myrtle with an oak nob.
I got a bunch I made.
I will post some pics tomorrow
With a defensive stick, the finish should be smoothish, but not like polyurethane slick. Being too smooth will actually cause the stick to stick to your skin and give you a friction burn!
I think that, being 22 years young, carrying a walking stick would make for highly effective social distancing, pandemic or no.
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