Beat me to it by 20 minutes. Ignoring the performance and how good or bad it shoots there is no way it could continue to be sold in the US if it was dangerous. This country is so litigation happy that if a safety problem existed it would certainly be the end of any ammo manufacturer, or at least their US sales. It is safe to use, though it may be bottom barrel performance wise.
Wolf .223 Safe to use?
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Beat me to it by 20 minutes. Ignoring the performance and how good or bad it shoots there is no way it could continue to be sold in the US if it was dangerous. This country is so litigation happy that if a safety problem existed it would certainly be the end of any ammo manufacturer, or at least their US sales. It is safe to use, though it may be bottom barrel performance wise.
if this brand of ammo is inaccurate, why even bother using it? I mean, don't you want to actually hit something with your rifle? or are you more into the "spray and pray" fun type of shooting? Buying a $1500 rifle and running inaccurate ammo through it really defeats the purpose of the rifle to begin with.
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Ammo is not inaccurate. It can be made with a varying degree quality control, specifically in regards to the load. The higher the quality control, the higher the consistency of the ammunition.
Are we shooting water melons at 500 yards here or paper targets at 100?
The Wolf ammunition is more than enough accurate for training purposes (i.e., going to a class, practice, plinking). Uses that do not require stellar accuracy. We are not talking about shooting for groups from the bench. If you are using Wolf steel case and trying for the best groups...you FAIL. Not all "rapid fire" is "spray and pray" either.
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If I took a single round of Wolf .223, then stuck it in a cloning machine and made 5 more PERFECTLY IDENTICAL rounds of Wolf .223, the gun would be the breaking point, accuracy wise.
Accuracy is about consistancy.
Wolf shoots just fine in my AR and AK, and I average 4-6 MOA from either rifle with the ammo. My AR and AK both shoot better than that, but I cannot.
Accuracy is about consistancy.
Wolf shoots just fine in my AR and AK, and I average 4-6 MOA from either rifle with the ammo. My AR and AK both shoot better than that, but I cannot.
MD_Willington
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My Saiga eats it just like the JSC & HSM reloads I have
WardenWolf
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Same as with brass, as long as you don't shoot steel then shoot brass afterwards without using a chamber brush. Don't mix ammo types between cleanings and you'll be fine.
"Inaccurate" in this case means 5" groups at 100 yards. That's still plenty for cheap practice, and most people I see at the range are hard pressed to keep all their shots on a 2 foot wide target at 50 yards, no matter what they're shooting.
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My RRA AR likes wolf .223 just fine up to about 200 rds. At about 200 rds every round will stick in the chamber until I hit it with a spray of CLP and a chamber brush. I can tell when it is coming when the fired brass er.. steel.. starts getting a heavy residue on it. Then it is good for another 200 or so. Never had that problem with any brass cased ammo.
As an aside, it was fun when I had to do this at a company shooting event. I was banging the butt on the ground to get the bolt free so I could make sure it was not a live round before I popped the case out with a cleaning rod. Some new shooters were horrified!
As an aside, it was fun when I had to do this at a company shooting event. I was banging the butt on the ground to get the bolt free so I could make sure it was not a live round before I popped the case out with a cleaning rod. Some new shooters were horrified!
Extractor wear out with the steel cases is also a myth. Wolf steel is fairly soft, and if it wears out your extractor, it means that the extractor's manufacturer did not properly harden the part or use sub-standard components. Wear is about equal to brass cased ammo.
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I use wolf ammo all the time when practicing. My rifle has not turned into jello.
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I like Wolf Ammo a lot. These days I can't afford super-high quality ammo. Wolf is "good enough" for practice with AR's. Sometimes I think that some people dislike Wolf and the other Russian brands due to ethnic antipathy left over from the Cold War. There are people out there who simply hate Russians. I certainly don't accuse all the Wolf critics of this, but some. A local indoor commercial pistol range near me prohibits Wolf Ammo citing that it is unsafe, but I am pretty sure that they do this so they can sell people their own, more expensive ammo.
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Actually an interesting observation; I have had similar ones. I have noticed that alot of Wolf detractors refer to AK's and SKS' as 'commie guns' and list a coverall of negative design features that is about equal if you added every individual models flaw into one group and applied it to every rifle. Something along the line of "those silly ruskie guns aren't chrome lined, come from stamped parts, use low grade steel in poor manufacturing facilities. Most of the barrels are pinned and you can hardly rely on the sights..." blah blah blah. After that they will tell me why the end all, be all of semi-auto rifles is anything off the Garand platform.
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