Wood and Blued Steel 9mm Carbine? - Henry Homesteader

The Henry pcc looks like they ran out of time and never finished the forend. Maybe the squarish, bulky forend is needed for strength?

The peep sight on the Ruger PCC works quite well. No complaints about mine. Of course, I'm shooting Steel Challenge not for long range accuracy.

Someone upthread mentioned delayed blowback. Everything I've seen says it's a simple blowback action. Can't wait to see a disassembly video.

Reminds me most of the Marlin Camp 9. I enjoy my Camp 9 everytime I shoot it.

I've got three different pccs, but this one would make it 4. Especially if this price ($682) holds up when they actually have them in stock:

https://lockedloaded.com/product/henry-homesteader-9mm-carbine-16.37-bbl-blued-walnut-10rd
 
Believe It Or Not, I am one of the 6 or 7 shooters in the nation who doesn't own an AR, and that is the reason. I'd buy a Galil instead.
 
marvin02 said:
The peep sight on the Ruger PCC works quite well. No complaints about mine. Of course, I'm shooting Steel Challenge not for long range accuracy.
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This was my point about the sights: the only reason why the peep has to be close to your eye is for reduction in aiming error. The same visible offset of the blade inside the peep produces greater angular deflection when the peep is away from the eye. But if you don't need ultimate precision, you don't need a pinprick peep close to your eye. Might as well use a ghost ring type. So I'm not onboard with a widow at a funeral level whailing about Henry's choice. Just use an optic, sheesh. With all due respect to Mr. Halfmoon et al.
 
zaitcev said:
This was my point about the sights: the only reason why the peep has to be close to your eye is for reduction in aiming error. The same visible offset of the blade inside the peep produces greater angular deflection when the peep is away from the eye. But if you don't need ultimate precision, you don't need a pinprick peep close to your eye. Might as well use a ghost ring type. So I'm not onboard with a widow at a funeral level whailing about Henry's choice. Just use an optic, sheesh. With all due respect to Mr. Halfmoon et al.
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Who's wailing??? Fact, a peep sight on the receiver or tang is where it's supposed to be. Both for actual function and to serve to simplify the sight picture and extend the sight radius. A peep mounted on the barrel is a gimmick. Same for a ghost ring, which is just a peep with a large aperture. Ever actually use one?
 
KYamateur said:
I’ve waited for wood stocks for the Ruger pc carbine long enough - I don’t think it’s going to happen.
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I'm pretty sure that an Oly Oak stock for Ruger PC is way better than anything Henry or Ruger would ever put on their guns. But from the factory - lol nope. Even KelTec M43 never happened, and they literally teased it.

Personally though, I would be quite happy with a quality laminate. I have a laminate stock on my Tikka and it's very nice. Also, it is not afraid of moisture. But laminate is not Henry thing. They only do plastic and wood.
 
This is news to me, and pleasant indeed. Looks
A nice little rifle. I have no interest in 9mm, but if they do it in 40 S&W or, even better, 10mm, I will have to get one.
 
CraigC said:
Who's wailing??? Fact, a peep sight on the receiver or tang is where it's supposed to be. Both for actual function and to serve to simplify the sight picture and extend the sight radius. A peep mounted on the barrel is a gimmick. Same for a ghost ring, which is just a peep with a large aperture. Ever actually use one?
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Maybe Ruger was worried that POI would shift if they had the rear sight on the receiver but the barrel was takedown.
 
I saw one today in a local gun shop (Tulsa, OK), price tag $800. Still too expensive to me but not bad considering the ridiculous $1k+ MSRP. It had the proprietary Henry magazine setup.
 
chicharrones said:
Similar to the 1st gen non-takedown Ruger PC9. Interesting.
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I made that observation long ago. This design equals to a telescoping bolt, allowing them to keep the receiver short without resorting to a tungsten weight like Ruger did in the PC(C/C). Also, they can easily ramp the mass up for 10mm if they wish. The downside obviously is that it's going to be harder to incorporate a takedown feature.

I'm already thinking about useful accessories I can make for this, which weren't possible on Ruger. A magwell for CZ Scorpion magazines, for example. A low rail for ACRO style sights. I'll leave a better handguard to someone who knows his wood, like Dwight of Oly Oak.
 
I’d like to have one to go with a couple more I’d like to have, Ruger PCC, and a couple of Marlin Camp Carbines. Alas, not now in Pritzgers Communist Republik of Illinois.
Hiding my MSR and 30 Carbine til the AWB gets tossed.
 
Do you guys remember how Ruger managed a wrong description escape for the PC Carbine? One of their merchandisers re-used chunks for description for a Ruger AR, talking about bullet button, takedown pins and such. Once this kind of stuff gets out to websites of retailers, there's no hope anymore, it's there forever. The gun was out for many years, and here's a forum thread from a month ago (February 2023), started by a new guy who saw it for the first time:
https://www.rugerforum.net/threads/ruger-pc-carbine-california-compliant.407456/

Well, guess what. Looks like Henry decided to copy Ruger (in posting a garbage description to retailers):

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CraigC said:
Who's wailing??? Fact, a peep sight on the receiver or tang is where it's supposed to be. Both for actual function and to serve to simplify the sight picture and extend the sight radius. A peep mounted on the barrel is a gimmick. Same for a ghost ring, which is just a peep with a large aperture. Ever actually use one?
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This. The whole notion of aperture ('peep') sights is having them closer to the eye, the eye will then center itself on the brightest part of the opening...your eye actually becomes the rear sight, which is why a good cheek weld is important. Yes, a tang sight (as seen on those pictures of the vintage Winchester) is an even better option. Perhaps Marbles will make one for the Henry.
A barrel sight, whether open or notch, requires lining up two objects with the target; with an aperture, the rifle is snapped to the shoulder, and all you worry about is putting the front sight where you want the shot to go.
Ruger created their own problem with the takedown on their carbine; Henry could simply have done it right, putting the sight on the receiver.
Due respect to Zaitcev, but aperture sights have kept this codger shooting irons...the peep also gets you more depth of field (ever see pistol shooters using an aperture on their glasses?), which helps the clarity of both front sight and target.
Yinz boys need to try good aperture sights; there's a reason the military has used them since the A3 Springfield.
Moon
 
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