Wood and Blued Steel 9mm Carbine? - Henry Homesteader

[CraigC]

It's a good looking rifle, except for the forend and its checkering. Stock looks like birch, not walnut. Henry only uses ZAMAK for the internal receiver of the rimfire guns. I would expect the receiver of this rifle to be steel or aluminum.

I struggle to come up with a use for it. For me a 9mm long gun screams home defense and for that, I need compact size and the ability to mount a light.

I thought it was a near dead ringer for the BAR/BPR .22 rifles.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I like it. If the receiver is steel, I will love it

 

[Frulk]

Camp carbine, centerfire plinker that uses relatively cheap ammo. I like it.

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

The concept of the Marlin Camp Carbine is where the draw is... not necessarily the execution. The CC's problems are well known... but the demand for them is still pretty good, and that's one of the reasons why you keep seeing interest in wood and steel PCC's coming to market. The hope that Ruger will take the CC, update it as Ruger is want to do (and should,) and re-release it... I'll bet that is pretty high on a lot of people's Wish List, and particularly in .45ACP, but in other chamberings as well... think .40/10mm.

I think it would be much simpler to add PCC with wood furniture to the line up

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

It's a good looking rifle, except for the forend and its checkering. Stock looks like birch, not walnut. Henry only uses ZAMAK for the internal receiver of the rimfire guns. I would expect the receiver of this rifle to be steel or aluminum.

I struggle to come up with a use for it. For me a 9mm long gun screams home defense and for that, I need compact size and the ability to mount a light.

I thought it was a near dead ringer for the BAR/BPR .22 rifles.

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I think there might be a market for people that want a self defense rifle, but are turned off by the black rifle concept

I really like it but I already have a CX4. If money wasn't an issue I'd grab one

 

[Charlie98]

I think it would be much simpler to add PCC with wood furniture to the line up

My biggest issues with the Ruger PCC is the takedown feature (although I understand that may be a plus in other's minds...) and the gawdawful look of the thing. At least the Henry flows a little more like the Marlin... the Ruger just looks like it was slapped together from a box of gunshow parts. That is just my opinion, of course... and, as I say, it may look like one of the Lee sisters (Ugg Lee, Home Lee, Lone Lee...) but it may shoot like a dream.

 

[Charlie98]

Wonder if it might be cheaper if they offered it with plain slick wood without all that press checkering?

+1

I don't know why they insist on mashing that nice wood with that poor checkering.

 

[Bcwitt]

Idk,1k$ is a bit steep for a blowback. For that price a good 556 could be had.

 

[3Crows]

I am not sure I understand walnut-ish stained wood on a "Homestead" protection rifle? And no take down feature for packing? I guess I am not as fascinated with 9mm as most are. I suppose in a way this can be looked upon as a one cartridge for everything solution much like olden times when a cowboy would carry a rifle and a pistol with the same relatively anemic cartridge. So then maybe it does make sense though I would go for the Ruger.

 

[Ru4real]

I like that people find it interesting and will buy it.

Because I’m invested in guns that make it second or third tier.

 

[chicharrones]

. . .

Mainly I want all you guys to spend money on them soon and give us some good reviews with good photos.

I am talking to you Goat Sucker! you know you want one!

-kBob

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[kBob]

Man I ain’t et no Pork rinds in near 40 years, but now…..

Nice pocket knife.

-kBob

 

[CraigC]

For the record, I hate it when every time something new comes along, hordes of critics pounce on it with all manner of silly complaints. I'm trying not to be that guy.

For me, the Homesteader looks like a field rifle. In that role, it needs a more potent cartridge. Make it in 10mm (or something better) and I'll buy one for that purpose.

This is what a home defense 9mm "carbine" (soon to be SBR) looks like to me.

 

[redneck2]

For the record, I hate it when every time something new comes along, hordes of critics pounce on it with all manner of silly complaints. I'm trying not to be that guy.

That’s exactly what I was just thinking. There’s an endless stream of “what do you wish they would produce” threads. Guys come up with the goofiest ideas. Then when something is produced they pick it apart.

I wanted a super Uber .37 magnum rim fire with a 18 3/16” barrel, highly figured wood stock and blued steel for $500. But they made it with a 18 1/2” barrel and its $525 instead so I’m not gonna buy it

Absolutely pure conjecture, but I’d guess they are trying to market to HD/carbine fans in a common cheap to shoot caliber that is legal in areas that ban EBR’s and uses the most common magazines. And made in America. Made in America is great until it costs $100 more, then they buy Chinese to save a little money.

As for the square fore end, I’d suspect that’s to accommodate the roll checkering. I don’t know how you’d make a tapered one and easily checker it.

 

[Bcwitt]

From what I know, the only Henrys with Zamak receivers are rimfire guns. Their centerfire lever guns do not have Zamak receivers, so, I'd guess the Homesteader will follow that centerfire trend.

If it doesent say steel, i would assume Zamak, as it is a blow back.

 

[BreechFace]

@CraigC Agreed. The Homesteader needs something with more case volume to take advantage of that 16” barrel then 9mm.

I love 9mm for what it is, it’s very efficient and well purposed for its design. This Henry design lends itself more to 10mm or 45ACP, IMHO.

I can see why Henry did it, nearly all shooters it seems has a 9mm and it’s the cheapest center fire round to shoot with a wide array of loadings. It would make for a fun plinker and small pest gun, but stepping up into 10mm or 45ACP would put it in to a more useful role as far as effectiveness in utilizing the longer barrel. And both of these calibers lend themselves to providing greater energies out of a long barrel utilizing heavy subsonic.

between the two 10mm would be where I land as there are bullet weights which would allow for fast and light or slow and heavy.

With all of that said, if it’s a steel receiver I would still be taking a look at one because even in 9mm it would make a fun gun to load and bum around the ranch with. I think they did a good job with the aesthetics for what it is.

 

[Oninotaki]

Make it in 30 super carry and I am in!

 

[jmorris]

You know the praise lauded on the marlin cap 9 always puzzles me. It’s just one of those guns remembered way more fondly that it should be.

I have a buddy that declared my Camp 9 his favorite rifle back in 1986 and it’s still his favorite rifle…

I can’t say I share his enthusiasm for the rifles but I also acquired spare parts cheap when they were plentiful incase mine ever falls apart like I always read about on the internet. Even converted one housing over to use glock mags (right).



I pretty much quit shooting it myself after building an integrally suppressed 9mm AR but did make a few changes to the factory controls to run it in PCC matches. I find humor in dusting folks with $2000+ in an AR with a rifle that looks like it needs a “Worlds Greatest Grandpa” sticker on it.

For play, I made an easier to hit mag release.



And extended the safety out so the trigger finger can be on it and outside the trigger guard.



I would suggest to absolutely avoid aluminum cased ammunition in them.

 

[CraigC]

If it doesent say steel, i would assume Zamak, as it is a blow back.

No reason whatsoever to think that. I've historically been very critical of Henry and both my rimfire levers have issues. However, they're not HiPoint. Henry uses ZAMAK only in the rimfire guns and not for exposed parts. If I were going to assume, I'd assume steel or aluminum. Hopefully aluminum to keep the weight down.

 

[Madcap_Magician]

See, I don't hate it... but someone on the interwebs said it looks like a Crosman air gun, and I can't unsee that.

 

[R.W.Dale]

See, I don't hate it... but someone on the interwebs said it looks like a Crosman air gun, and I can't unsee that.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

 

[Madcap_Magician]

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

I suppose I should explain the backstory here... growing up, I learned to shoot on Crosman pump-action air rifles, but the camp air guns we learned on were... well, they were maintained by high schoolers and shot by young elementary students. A lot of us had to flip the rifles over against the shooting benches in order to get leverage to pump the forearm handle repeatedly, with a resulting long-term detrimental impact on the condition of the sights. Plus, I was weaker than many and hurt my fingers a lot doing this.

So I have this weird negative association with Crosman air rifles in terms of usability and accuracy.

 

[chicharrones]

See, I don't hate it... but someone on the interwebs said it looks like a Crosman air gun, and I can't unsee that.

Henry nailed it.

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[Spug]

Henry nailed it.

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Ouch! Hard to un-see that, and the forend on what they are demoing definitely needs work. Hopefully Henry is paying attention to pre-release reactions to the design. Still happy to see more options in this firearms category. Give us more calibers, please!

 

[jmorris]

My first though was it had a BAR look to it. 2nd was, I guess I’d get that before a 9mm lever, if they made one.